It's situations like this, where some lesbians, are being 'too easily persuaded' that dating a man that presents as a woman means they are in a lesbian relationship, that the term 'women being the weaker sex' springs to mind.
I'm a straight woman but for goodness sake if you are going to claim lesbianism, can't you stand firm, ten toes down on your lesbian sexuality, your lesbian culture and female reality and not undermine and help to erase the very concept of lesbianism?
It means nothing if you are allowing biological men to claim female sexuality and everything that comes with that ie being a woman. This was a very important part of the argument put forward in the UK Supreme Court case on who is a 'woman'?
Lots of young women who claim to be lesbian are in fact Bi or Bi Curious. later go on to marry men and have kids with them. They're not being deceitful, just figuring things out. I have know a few like this. I find you can tell the difference with absolutely resolute lesbians I have known several life long lesbians and they very much have a different vibe.
It works the other way around with gay men. Plenty of gay men pretend to be straight when they are young but continue to deceive their girlfriend/wife until they finally dump her for a guy.
People's views on sexuality rarely make sense, even those who should know better. I have lost count of the number of GC gays and lesbians who insisted online that I'm not gay because I'm a tranny or that their is no such thing as being gay and trans. With their next breath they will be telling me I'm a man. Yes I am a man, singularly attracted to men, only ever had sex with men and am married to a man, but apparently according to them I can't be gay because I look like this and so I "Transed the Gay Away"! These are the same people who claim to grounded in reality.
By the way I have no desire to part of anybody's clique or identity group, I wouldn't join so much as a Christmas club let alone some "community".
'People's views on sexuality rarely make sense...'
This!... Sums it up perfectly.
It's one thing for a woman to be figuring out her own sexuality. However, it's a completely different thing allowing a man to claim and take over ie dictate, control and redefine what it means to be a female, woman and a lesbian.
Some are being knowingly deceitful and/or doing it for fetish purposes i.e those that know full well they do like men but call themselves lesbians regardless and will do things like: dump very graphic details of their encounters with men on lesbians because they enjoy making her feel uncomfortable and know that she probably doesnt want to seem rude, will tell the guys they get with that they're totally lesbians because they find it exciting/thrilling to have him think he's "turning" a homosexual woman, will claim to be lesbian to try to get back at ex-boyfriends or to seem "rebellious", etc. List goes on
I know they love to accuse same sex attraction as a "genital fetish" except that what attracts us is the whole package: women and men smell different, their bodies feel different (and not just in the genitalia), they behave and present differently. For all the troons I've seen (and there have been plenty), not one even comes across as a real woman. I doubt any real lesbian would be fooled or attracted for an instant.
I can't tell if they're too pornsick and autistic to understand how strange their "genital fetish" concept is, or if it's just a talking point designed to confuse teenagers and liberals.
(Maybe that sounds flippant, but genuinely, it baffles me)
'Genital fetish' is all simply calculated gaslighting and guilt tripping people into accepting them as 'women' despite their genitals when we all know they are men, not least because of a typical male characteristic ie a penis. Not to talk about the whole internal male structure.
They delude themselves that synthetic hormones and undergoing extreme facial feminisation surgery (to erase and hide their typical male bone structure amongst other things) make them a women. They deny to themselves and erase from their minds that the fact they have had to do all this is because they are men. And let's not forget the tell tell sign ie their penis.
They don't want to connect the dots that 'trans' means that you are trying to imitate the opposite sex to who you actually are ie in this case, men.
I'm really sick of lesbianism being framed around men and dicks. It's not about not liking dick, it's about loving women. I don't understand why this is still so hard for so many people (even lesbians) to accept. Especially when gay men have TV shows, dumb ass women clamoring to be their friends, and can kick a woman larping as a man out of their spaces, you'd think people would catch on to how sexist this all is.
Every woman and their feelings and the basis for their attraction is different. For some women, loving women encompasses at the same time, not being attracted to men and their physical appearance and attributes. It's inextricably entwined.
'I don't understand why this is still so hard for so many people (even lesbians) to accept.'
Perhaps you don't understand because you're not accepting of the fact that some lesbian's feelings come from a different perspective from yours. They feel what they feel for the reasons that they feel it. We all have different motivations for why we end up with who we are with.
Lol, these men crack me up... sometimes, and only momentarily. Any self-proclaimed "lesbian" who has sex with men, is actually bisexual. Any bisexual woman who would have sex with a male who "identifies" as a woman, is insane.
This is another way for males to coerce lesbians into a sexual encounter. Males will continue to never accept lesbians, because of porn. Porn has not only stolen the term lesbian, but pornified it! Males watching porn, click on the category lesbian, think that all lesbians are like this. So the push is on to either convince them into sex or force them. There is no, leave them the fuck alone option! This is on the same line of thinking when straight women reject a male, keep after her, try to wear her down or take what you want! Porn has destroyed our society and it's only going to get worse with children having access to it 24/7 at younger and younger ages!
I think you have alighted upon a whole new genre of greeting cards that Hallmark should jump on. Example: For a cross-dressing son's birthday: "Be-dicked or De-dicked," (inside) "You are still our child. Don't call us, we'll call you. Happy Birthday." ~Mom & Dad. For a Father's birthday: "You're Not That Old, Dad!" (inside), "De-dicked is the new 39! (sorry for the deadnaming!) " ~Happy birthday, Dad--oops, I mean, "Linda". P.S. My wife and I still agree: until you go back to being Grandpa, you are 'missing' in the Amazon jungle. Save this card, it's the last one I'm ever sending. Your son, Roger
if she has sex w/a male, she's not a homosexual.
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Right. Speedily.
It's situations like this, where some lesbians, are being 'too easily persuaded' that dating a man that presents as a woman means they are in a lesbian relationship, that the term 'women being the weaker sex' springs to mind.
I'm a straight woman but for goodness sake if you are going to claim lesbianism, can't you stand firm, ten toes down on your lesbian sexuality, your lesbian culture and female reality and not undermine and help to erase the very concept of lesbianism?
It means nothing if you are allowing biological men to claim female sexuality and everything that comes with that ie being a woman. This was a very important part of the argument put forward in the UK Supreme Court case on who is a 'woman'?
Lots of young women who claim to be lesbian are in fact Bi or Bi Curious. later go on to marry men and have kids with them. They're not being deceitful, just figuring things out. I have know a few like this. I find you can tell the difference with absolutely resolute lesbians I have known several life long lesbians and they very much have a different vibe.
It works the other way around with gay men. Plenty of gay men pretend to be straight when they are young but continue to deceive their girlfriend/wife until they finally dump her for a guy.
People's views on sexuality rarely make sense, even those who should know better. I have lost count of the number of GC gays and lesbians who insisted online that I'm not gay because I'm a tranny or that their is no such thing as being gay and trans. With their next breath they will be telling me I'm a man. Yes I am a man, singularly attracted to men, only ever had sex with men and am married to a man, but apparently according to them I can't be gay because I look like this and so I "Transed the Gay Away"! These are the same people who claim to grounded in reality.
By the way I have no desire to part of anybody's clique or identity group, I wouldn't join so much as a Christmas club let alone some "community".
Some very good insights and points made.
'People's views on sexuality rarely make sense...'
This!... Sums it up perfectly.
It's one thing for a woman to be figuring out her own sexuality. However, it's a completely different thing allowing a man to claim and take over ie dictate, control and redefine what it means to be a female, woman and a lesbian.
Some are being knowingly deceitful and/or doing it for fetish purposes i.e those that know full well they do like men but call themselves lesbians regardless and will do things like: dump very graphic details of their encounters with men on lesbians because they enjoy making her feel uncomfortable and know that she probably doesnt want to seem rude, will tell the guys they get with that they're totally lesbians because they find it exciting/thrilling to have him think he's "turning" a homosexual woman, will claim to be lesbian to try to get back at ex-boyfriends or to seem "rebellious", etc. List goes on
Yes! That angle definitely exists.
I know they love to accuse same sex attraction as a "genital fetish" except that what attracts us is the whole package: women and men smell different, their bodies feel different (and not just in the genitalia), they behave and present differently. For all the troons I've seen (and there have been plenty), not one even comes across as a real woman. I doubt any real lesbian would be fooled or attracted for an instant.
Yeah the whole "genital preference" terminology is so reductive and eye-rolly. There's a infinitely more to being a woman than genitals.
I can't tell if they're too pornsick and autistic to understand how strange their "genital fetish" concept is, or if it's just a talking point designed to confuse teenagers and liberals.
(Maybe that sounds flippant, but genuinely, it baffles me)
'Genital fetish' is all simply calculated gaslighting and guilt tripping people into accepting them as 'women' despite their genitals when we all know they are men, not least because of a typical male characteristic ie a penis. Not to talk about the whole internal male structure.
They delude themselves that synthetic hormones and undergoing extreme facial feminisation surgery (to erase and hide their typical male bone structure amongst other things) make them a women. They deny to themselves and erase from their minds that the fact they have had to do all this is because they are men. And let's not forget the tell tell sign ie their penis.
They don't want to connect the dots that 'trans' means that you are trying to imitate the opposite sex to who you actually are ie in this case, men.
I'm really sick of lesbianism being framed around men and dicks. It's not about not liking dick, it's about loving women. I don't understand why this is still so hard for so many people (even lesbians) to accept. Especially when gay men have TV shows, dumb ass women clamoring to be their friends, and can kick a woman larping as a man out of their spaces, you'd think people would catch on to how sexist this all is.
Every woman and their feelings and the basis for their attraction is different. For some women, loving women encompasses at the same time, not being attracted to men and their physical appearance and attributes. It's inextricably entwined.
'I don't understand why this is still so hard for so many people (even lesbians) to accept.'
Perhaps you don't understand because you're not accepting of the fact that some lesbian's feelings come from a different perspective from yours. They feel what they feel for the reasons that they feel it. We all have different motivations for why we end up with who we are with.
Lol, these men crack me up... sometimes, and only momentarily. Any self-proclaimed "lesbian" who has sex with men, is actually bisexual. Any bisexual woman who would have sex with a male who "identifies" as a woman, is insane.
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This is another way for males to coerce lesbians into a sexual encounter. Males will continue to never accept lesbians, because of porn. Porn has not only stolen the term lesbian, but pornified it! Males watching porn, click on the category lesbian, think that all lesbians are like this. So the push is on to either convince them into sex or force them. There is no, leave them the fuck alone option! This is on the same line of thinking when straight women reject a male, keep after her, try to wear her down or take what you want! Porn has destroyed our society and it's only going to get worse with children having access to it 24/7 at younger and younger ages!
Bisexuality is a **SEXuality** I am attracted to men and to women. Tragically twisted "trans" bodies short-circuit my brain.
Bisexual people are not canon fodder for pervy men and deluded women to chase after and manipulate.
I think you have alighted upon a whole new genre of greeting cards that Hallmark should jump on. Example: For a cross-dressing son's birthday: "Be-dicked or De-dicked," (inside) "You are still our child. Don't call us, we'll call you. Happy Birthday." ~Mom & Dad. For a Father's birthday: "You're Not That Old, Dad!" (inside), "De-dicked is the new 39! (sorry for the deadnaming!) " ~Happy birthday, Dad--oops, I mean, "Linda". P.S. My wife and I still agree: until you go back to being Grandpa, you are 'missing' in the Amazon jungle. Save this card, it's the last one I'm ever sending. Your son, Roger