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🤮 Hoping that neuroleptic drugs will improve his behavior is rather wishful thinking. The industry has had decades to prove that chemical imbalance theory regarding “mental” illness, but the majority of people so diagnosed are most likely experiencing a neurological impairment which is immunological in nature. (Dr. Halper, psychiatrist is one of a minority of psychiatrists who are thinking along these lines.) Which means it’s medical illness, not “mental.” True mental illness is personality disorder, IMHO. If there weren’t so many mentally ill practitioners in the psychological services industry, we’d have better treatment from them. Now the orthodox psychiatrists are saying that they need to start drugging children for supposed “bipolar illness” starting at age two. 😳 I’m not kidding, it was on PBS Frontline within the last year. It’s crazy insane to drug children like that. The poor kids who are being scapegoated this way! I wouldn’t put my trust in “civilized” men like that. Just sayin’!

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So, interesting, isn't it? When I was in college, '84-'88 my physiological psych prof told us that by the 90s no one would be given a psych diagnosis w/o a brain scan and blood test. This would prevent misdiagnosis, over medication, under medication, wrong medication, etc. Obviously, NONE of this happened. It's a damn shame because we have the tech.

I've read the schizophrenia can indeed have a viral origin. Why we're not pursuing this is beyond me. I also think that anyone who knows even a tiny bit about psychiatric illness knows that it's neurological as opposed to psychological.

Putting 2 year olds on psych meds? I just can't. When I was a classroom teacher, it was recommended that no kid under the age of 8 should be given any meds, and even then, it was on a provisional, not an indefinite basis. We certainly love to turn people into life-long medical patients.

Civilized men are quite over-rated.

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Also, if you are interested in viral origins of psychiatric symptoms, especially in kids, look into PANDAS. It's been associated with many psych issues but often there is a component of obsessive behavior and thinking, such as classic OCD or anorexia. Pretty interesting.

Then, there's chronic fatigue syndrome, which is the worst name ever for a symptom that, in the most severely affected, can leave one bedridden and unable to eat orally. However, depression-like symptoms are usually present and sometimes are the prominent symptoms. There is strong evidence that CFS/ME has a viral trigger. More precisely, like PANDAS, it's thought to be an autoimmune response to viral illness. Also, "chronic Lyme disease," which many doctors don't believe is real because most of the symptoms are neuropsychiatric (stuff like fatigue, brain fog, chronic pain, etc), is felt by some to be a very real phenomenon in which the Lyme bacteria don't fully leave the body and cause issues either directly or through autoimmune response.

People with long COVID often experience neuropsychiatric issues as well.

Then there's AIDS-related dementia, in which there is visible destruction of brain tissue in a person with AIDS, often late or end stage. Their symptoms are more classic to dementia in many cases but psycho behavioral problems are common. (For that matter, they are common in all types of dementia, some more than others, but we're talking about infectious origins here.)

There is a LOT we don't know about the interaction between infectious diseases, the immune response, and neuro/psych/constitutional symptoms.

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The chemical paradigm is quite profitable for the corporations that (now) control the medical marketplace, and sadists administer it, so I’m not exactly surprised that it keeps producing scandalously harmful treatments, since there’s never been adequate accountability for them.

That pronoun “we” in your second-to-last sentence is doing some heavy lifting. Not “we” as in Terven but “we” as in the U$A, yeah! I soured on pronouns and rainbows in the mid-Nineties with “we” for the U$A (considering the neoliberal direction of the country) and the New Agers here in California soured me on the rainbow with their chakra talk (which I think is demonic).

Thanks for all the ammunition and encouragement you provide to your fellow Terven! ❤️

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It's is interesting. While we do have the tech, billions and billions of dollars have been spent over the last 3-4 decades searching in vain for a physiologic marker of any mental illness. These studies have yielded some interesting findings, but nothing that is generalizable to all, or even most, individuals with a given diagnosis. Thus, we have no way of diagnosing anyone with psychiatric illness through physical markers. Allen Francis, who used to direct the NIMH, has written and spoken a lot about this.

One theory is that our current system of diagnosis is simply inaccurate. Meaning, that what we now call "schizophrenia" or "bipolar" or "major depressive disorder" actually is not one illness, but a number of different illnesses that we're grouping together based on symptoms. In other words, what we do is like looking at everyone with an acutely elevated body temperature and diagnosing them with "fever" as opposed to "sepsis," "influenza," "chickenpox" and so on. This might also explain why psych meds that are very effective for some people do nothing for others with the same diagnosis. The problem with that as far as finding physical pathology (assuming it exists at all, which I'll discuss momentarily) is that research looking for such findings groups people by their DSM diagnosis. So, we're comparing people with schizophrenia looking for a common physiologic marker. But, if schizophrenia is actually a dozen distinct syndromes that we can't distinguish from each other, then there won't be a common marker. So the NIMH and other researchers are working on other ways to classify people with mental illness in order to research causes and treatments more effectively.

With that said, many in the field, providers and patients and loved ones alike, actually believe most mental illness is likely neuropsychological, meaning that certain physical factors interact with psychological factors in a given individual. And, factors that begin as psychological or social-things like trauma, or significant life stresses, or the like-can actually cause physical changes in the brain and the stress response system over time. Thus, psychological and neurological problems are often linked and interact with one another constantly.

For example, take psychosis. We know that there is a classic schizophrenia onset story of a normal young adult or late teen who suddenly becomes isolative and begins hearing voices and then declines until they're severely disabled. However. There are also more and more young people, especially young men, for whom the onset is linked to significant chronic marijuana use. There are other cases in which someone uses psychoactive drugs of abuse once or a handful of times, often in high doses, and experiences psychotic symptoms that last for months, years or never fully remit. And, there is a growing network of patients who suffered from severe psychotic symptoms who didn't improve much with meds but greatly improved, occasionally to full remission and often to the point that their functioning is greatly increased, once they receive good therapy for trauma, often repeated childhood trauma. We have good evidence that trauma causes physiologic changes in the entire body, including the brain as well as the endocrine system (think stress hormones) and so on, so it's possible that psychological trauma treatment can have actual neurologic effects in at least some people. But, again, no one has been able to find a replicable physiologic marker for any of those changes with treatment, possibly because of the challenges in making sure you're testing people who actually have the same physiologic etiology to begin with.

Further complicating things, if we're trying to measure the effects of psychotherapy, there have been large studies that have demonstrated that the most important factor in the amount of improvement the patient experiences, by far, is actually the relationship between the therapist and the patient. Far more important than the type, duration, or intensity of therapy. So how do you try to design a research study around THAT?

TL, DR: probably it is, for most people, actually a mix of neurological and psychological causes. Or, maybe, psychological causes often become neurological over time. Also, psych problems are really, really hard to study because we're almost certainly not diagnosing them precisely at all.

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There are genetic factors to consider also - we know of genes which contribute to anxiety, depression and bipolar/schizophrenia. Epigenetic factors can trigger latent predispositions to a disorder which may not have manifested otherwise.

Bottom line is that the mind and the body are an indivisible whole: what affects one necessarily affects the other. It is ridiculous to try to treat them separately - as do insurance policies which cover vision, dental, mental health differently from "medical conditions."

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Yes, to everything you wrote!

One of the benefits of the ACA (in the US) was that it instituted a nationwide mental health parity requirement, such that insurance policies had to cover mental health services at the same level at which they cover comparable medical treatments. There's still major problems, including instance networks of mental health providers that are small and often don't include the best providers, who often don't take insurance at all because of the low reimbursement rate (one of the disadvantages of parity/equal coverage is that the average medical appointment is much shorter than the average therapy appointment, yet they can be reimbursed at the same level). Then there's the general shortage of providers overall leading to outpatient wait lists months long, and people spending days and often weeks languishing in emergency rooms awaiting inpatient beds, and often being sent hundreds of miles away because after 2 weeks the only open bed is across the state. And, the proliferation of for-profit clinics and residential treatment centers that provide minimal, shoddy "treatment" while milking the patient's insurance benefits (or bank account) and then promptly kicking them out when they run dry.

Then there's the fact that for many conditions, including gender confusion, there really aren't any validated, highly effective treatments out there, so it's a bit like the wild West.

So, not even close to perfect, but... It's pretty pathetic that we even needed the ACA, which was signed around 2008, to mandate parity-because at that time, only some states had mandates. In the others, mental health coverage wasn't required at all and/or if it was provided, the benefits were much less than medical care-for example, someone might be limited to 12 therapy visits per year, regardless of their condition. It really shows how little much of the country, and many politicians, care about those who struggle with mental illness. Which is incredibly short-sighted, because even if they don't give a fig about the human suffering of the person and their loved ones and community, the financial cost alone should be enough to make them want to act. The fact that it's not really makes it seem like there are certain people out there with a vested interest in punishing the mental ill and addicted. Sort of the political version of "tough love" which even in it's micro form is a flawed theory that often results in tragedy. But it seems we never learn. And then the same people that expect the mentally ill to magically "toughen up" and fix themselves are the ones who complain that the homeless schizophrenics and addicts living in tents by the river are ruining the view from their penthouse...

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Individuals with personality disorders should be prevented from being therapists. The chemical paradigm is quite profitable, yet rarely produces true health in humans. Corporate control of the medical marketplace has harmed everyone.

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No tax payers should have to fund this self inflicted mutilation including here in the UK. If they want the surgery they should pay for it themselves. Also mentally ill people shouldn’t be experimented on. 🤡

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Exactly. We can't properly fund education and public transit but we can pay for troon surgery? What the hell?

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Well, to be fair, most trans people are likely to be very expensive whether gender affirmation is covered or not. They're mentally not well, are prone to self harm, and often unable to support themselves due to their level of psychiatric instability. So they're unlikely to be cheap to care for regardless of if you treat them this way or with therapy and psych meds.

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Gender "affirmation" is simply making them worse - and society sicker as a whole. Would you give an anorexic an Rx for amphetamines and bariatric surgery? Would you cut off the limb of someone with apotemnophilia? Would you tell a schizophrenic that the voices s/he hears really are from the devil or that they really are being followed by the CIA?

Regardless of cost, reality-based therapies are better and more ethical than mutilation and sterilization of the mentally ill.

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I just don't see the difference here between surgery for gender dysphoria and surgery for, say, body dysmorphia, which to my knowledge isn't covered anywhere in the world. Cosmetic surgery shouldn't be covered under insurance. And, I will probably get some crap for saying this, but imo that even includes women who've had mastectomies due to breast cancer and want reconstruction for cosmetic purposes. If you're actually improving physical function with the surgery, then fine. Otherwise, if it's just to make you happier, it should be on your own dime.

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fuck canada honestly

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You can't because Canada had its junk cut off.

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At this point, genitals are meaningless. We can’t be identified by them, they can be mutilated on a whim or a fetish and nullifying surgery gets rid of them altogether. I was hopeful he would lose this case….Thanks for the update K.

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Actually, genitals are exceptionally meaningful, since politicians can campaign on what people do or do not do with them and surgeons can make serious bank mutilating them, fixing the problems caused by the mutilation....Never have genitals been more important.

When I first saw this headline I thought 'I can't deal with this right now. I'll look back at it in a few days'. We've gone batshit NUTS as a society.

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If genitals don't define your gender, I don't understand why they need to be removed. Or why liking stereotypical girl things such as ballet or doing your makeup means that you must actually be a girl and thus get your junk removed and gain access to women's spaces.

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I'm convinced that people who buy into this are seriously mentally ill and/or cognitively impaired. There's no other explanation.

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mostly yes. there's a percentage that have no self awareness & go along with movements/fads.

"fetish surgery" .. just gross. hope more & more do it. get this insane, INSANE, phase over with

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It is ridiculous

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I'm convinced that this state-sanction nonsense is government's way to sterilise the undesirables, to stop them breeding and passing on this degeneracy..

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I think it is definitely eugenics but if they just wanted to sterilize people they could find a more humane way to do it and wouldn't be messing with toddlers. I think a way to torture mentally ill people and homosexuals, which is degenerate in its own right. We can't cure degeneracy with more degeneracy. We used to have long-term locked wards for people like this - we need to bring those back.

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It's just more men playing god again

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Eek!

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Seriously.

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That we have governments willing to fund this and doctors willing to do it, raises a profound question: Is a society which enables this madness so far degraded that it is not worth saving? If these gruesome procedures aren't banned for all ages, everywhere, the answer is obvious.

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Excellent question.

What really concerns me is that our governments engage in this chicanery, generally, outside of public view. Even if people would object, they're not given the opportunity. On the odd chance that these stories make it into mainstream media, they're covered by tiny outlets like Reduxx, me, and a few other youtubers. I'm sure media big-wigs are aware of these horrors but it contradicts the rainbow narrative to talk about this honestly.

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Remember this sex-change nonsense started w/ men helping other men who wanted to be a woman do this. The first was in Germany in the 20s -30s and in the U.S, w/ George 'Christine' Jorgensen in the 50s. He had to go to Denmark to find a doctor who would give him cross-sex hormones. He then had genital surgery there to remove his testes. He returned to the U.S. and had a faux vagina installed in 1954 by Dr. Joseph Angelo and Dr. Harry Benjamin. He undoubtedly had complications from the cross-sex hormones and the genital surgery. He died at age 62 from bladder and lung cancer.

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I hope he dies

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I'm on the fence about that one, but.....I understand where you're coming from. I'm SO sick of these damned people.

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Not a brain between them

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Guy can't or won't control his bowels already and they are going to let him have genital surgery? Guess I better go invest in companies making antibiotics.

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An FYI for the U.S.: The MSM have been conspicuously absent in reporting on the 'trans' issue in a balanced way leaving out the dangers of 'trans' and its implications for women's rights and LGB's sex-based rights and spaces and for the damage to minors indoctrinated into the vile 'trans' ideology.

https://womensliberationfront.org/news/open-letter-to-npr-feminists-demand-fair-and-balanced-coverage-of-transgender-identity-issues

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Signed and delivered!

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I heard she got arrested for threatening to kill the council.... good.

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Men have really fucked up the whole thing, haven't they?

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It's interesting he says he started being depressed from around 5 years old and has a diaper fetish, kids usually get toilet trained around 2-3 years old, makes me wonder what happened to him around that age that's made him like this, this guy needs locked up in a psych ward, this will not end well!!

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Is all this so he can f*ck himself? I don't know how that works. It also seems like it would be hard to keep his manhole clean if he's wearing a diaper.

Meanwhile, there's always the option of euthanasia, as this disabled female veteran was offered. It seems some lives are worth more than others.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/02/canada-paralympian-christine-gauthier-stairlift-euthanasia/

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The Tranadian govt also 'prescribes' and funds MAID for the mentally ill. It is cheaper than frankensurgeries and doesn't put women and children at risk.

There are noTranadian frankensurgeons with sufficient surgical mutilation improv skills...yet...so paying Crane $70K (plus the troon's expenses - the feds provide $75k for affirmation supplies) will push recruitment efforts BUT most doctors don't want to come to Tranada to practice because the healthcare system is highly regulated, bureaucratized, and not 'for profit'.

Mental health services in Tranada are private. If the troon is receiving PWD benefits (welfare for people with disabilities), pharmaceuticals are covered 100% but counselling is not....which is not relevant anyway. Affirmation-only is the law. CAMH, in Toronto, headquarters to the 'pioneers and trans cabal cheerleaders' funds some troon mental health programs for tru-trans patients/consumers/clients. If Mr. Diaper Fetish had to go to court to force the Province to pay for his frankensurgery, I suspect he did not qualify for CAMH services or that he is lying about his diagnoses.

I have no compassion left. None.

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I have an unfortunate case of gynecomastia after 30years of less than optimal diet and exercise. I was thinking of pretending to be non-binary to get the government to cover my male breast reduction surgery lol. thoughts?

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Go for it!!! Be sure to let every woke News agency know about it. Get as much attention as possible in hopes that people might start having a critical thought here or there. Maybe, it’s an altruistic lie…

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Agreed why the hell not?!

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