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HelenB's avatar

I am embarrassed to say when I first “Peaked” learning about trans I thought Stella O’Malley sounded knowledgeable and reasonable. Now I can barely bring myself to listen to her. She’s true Trans all the way and she doesn’t give a dam about women.

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Karen Davis's avatar

She seemed that way to quite a few people. I read Genspect's propaganda materials before I ever heard Stella speak, so I was familiar with the BS before I heard the sales pitch. I also have a psych background, so it's easier for me to see through the nonsense. People who don't have this info already could very easily have the wool pulled over their eyes.

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Carolyn's avatar

You aren't the only one, its easy to take someone at face value sometmes, she was very convincing initially I think but not for that long although compared to when others realised I didnt even have a clue any of this was going on until about a year and a bit ago now I think.

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Evangeline's avatar

Ugh, Stella is *so* performative.

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Carolyn's avatar

These people are insane, they all talk about puberty like its an illness, something bad ffs its a part of normal human fkn development not something to be avoided, what are they gonna suggest transing fkn fetuses next. Lots of people are uncomfortable with their bodies during puberty, its the first load of major changes anybody will ever experience in their lives unless you are unlucky enough to have a serious illness or life.body changing accident but people have been going through it since humans existed, jesus don;t animals also go through a sort of puberty or a coming of age type thing, all it is is you are growing up and your body maturing.

Also am pretty sure irish dancing was a very big thing when she was growing up in ireland, you have to be seriously fit to be able to do that and it has fuckall to do with gender stereotypes, some of those girls were huge too, so tall and very very athletically fit.

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Karen Davis's avatar

When I was in 3rd grade I was one of four chubby girls. One of us, Cathy, was Irish and very proud of her Irish heritage. She was into Irish Step Dancing and performed a bit of it in front of class. I LOVED It - it was more dignified and far less cutesy than tap, and she was a somewhat tall, chubby girl doing all these cool things with her feet. It was AWESOME.

Then, her family went back to Ireland, which I also though was super cool. I started telling my parents that we should move to England because....7 year old reasons.

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Carolyn's avatar

I once was convinced my mum had won a holiday to disney world (t'was a timeshare) I was so angry cause I was convinced we'd won a holiday.

I used to watch irish dancers in awe as a kid, really wanted to do it but its not a cheap hobby for a kid from the east end of Glasgow, was lucky enough to have any dancing lessons. I don't think it would have been good for me anyway with EDS lol Id have just ended up injuring myself or causing some serious wear and tear.

Am sure O'Malley will unravel more as the gender bs does. I watched AG for a bit but when that Katy Jon guy was on it I just couldn't stomach it and since then nah. I get we need to have conversations about some stuff to move forward but platforming a creep like that.... nah

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Lida H.'s avatar

Irish Dance is still a *very* big thing, but those kids are elite athletes and I think that an involvement with it nowadays says more about a family's ability to eschew most sex-based stereotypes more than anything else, actually.

**I'm referring to the "World Irish Dancing Championship" here. I'm sure that there's less competitive and more localised iterations of it, of course, but it does seem to me that quite a few outsiders mischaracterise Irish Dance as being not dreadfully physically challenging just because of the lack of arm movement - which I find odd.

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Carolyn's avatar

thats insane, I used to go to dance classes as a kid, mostly tap with a little bit of modern, ballet and highland dancing and that was demanding physically, Irish dancing is insanely hard, many of them train from being babies. I always was so enamoured by it as a kid, those dresses were amazing, not a cheap thing either.

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Lida H.'s avatar

Yeah, it's crazy difficult and so taxing on the participants. I find it amazing, too.

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kai1's avatar

There was a big Irish dance competition in the US recently. Lot of uproar because, yep, a boy, that claims to be a girl, won the girls competititon.

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Karen Davis's avatar

Now I want to throw things. WHY?

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Carolyn's avatar

ffs they cant leave shit alone can they. I bet he was fkn shit as well like that guy who got a place in a dance school or some crap recently.

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Karen Davis's avatar

That fat, old, lumbering AGP? Yeah....I saw that. What a joke.

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Kerry A's avatar

I saw this but I can't remember who highlighted it.

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Carolyn's avatar

It is. I hope it survives I doubt it will ever be lost but the riverdance days are long gone although no doubt there must still be a market for it out there.

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Karen Davis's avatar

The dresses! Love those too.

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Tilb's avatar

seems to me, this militant push for puberty blockers, is to create legions of medically stunted 'forever young toys' for the pedos.

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Karen Davis's avatar

Yup. I don't know why anyone still sees O'Malley as one of the good ones or a moderate or any of that other BS. She's a TRA.

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XxYwise's avatar

You think she's pushing puberty blockers?

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kai1's avatar

There has certainly been talk about "transing" toddlers.

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LA's avatar

What little I’ve seen of S O’Malley previously - she failed to favorably impress me. But this? This woman is DANGEROUS. Ignorant of physiology, a history of dick/deviance pandering, she’s sexist, centering her own experience as “the” perspective…. Nah, this woman, IMO, is (nincompoop) controlled opposition. I’m seeing a trend, in almost all societally important and impactful positions, of idiots, dementia sufferers, ignorant individuals, and sheer incompetents having been, and continuing to be, installed. This is going to be quite the task to set course to sane, safe, and respectful (also strive again for truly ethical science and wellness/healing)

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Karen Davis's avatar

Excellent insight.

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kai1's avatar

I wanted to be Kristy McNichol when I was a kid too. Now...I want Stella O'Malley to shut up. Said it before and I'll say it again, I don't believe what she says about wanting to be a boy in the teeniest, tiniest bit. Feel like she listened to Erin Brewer, who I absolutely believe about wanting to be a boy. Then, Stella had an aha moment and decided to spin a yarn. Not sure she even knows when she is lying. She shouldn't be a therapist.

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Karen Davis's avatar

She sounds like she heard of psychology two or three years ago but still doesn't quite know what it's about.

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Emma P33L's avatar

"Adolescence is not all sexual desire & misery" .. but it is a feels of "everyone looks/judges me" & the belief that everyday is a lifetime & feels feel like forever. which of course is why vast majority of gender confused minors grow out of it; their brain matures.

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Karen Davis's avatar

Yeah.....there's that but there's also self-discovery that has nothing to do with sex. That's why kids need hobbies and sports.

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Evangeline's avatar

I don’t understand why someone at her big age remembers puberty so vividly. I’m only 30-ish and I don’t remember anything about puberty.

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Lida H.'s avatar

It's giving "disingenuous", isn't it?

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Carolyn's avatar

tbh I do I hated getting boobs and I got my period first time on a buy on the way to town to get a coca cola yoyo with my pal lmfao off to buy a toy and I get my period, was on the bus and I started feeling ill and I threw up and felt like shit, got off the bus went into a&e had o wait for my mum to come get me and they couldn't treat me without her there (what a huge change from today eh!) went home and Id started my period. I was spotty and greasy and bloated and uncomfortable in my own body and was picky with clothes nothing looked or felt ok and I felt that way till I was at least 16. Hard to forget tbh had friends though, done things I wasnt meant to like smoking and drinking and boys etc

I'll be 48 this year! I have a really good memory for some stuff, a lot of useles shit. One of the most is the "bowmans capsule" from biology and quadrats! lmao totally unrelated to each other and bot something Ive ever needed to know but yeah ?? Can't remember shit from yesterday though!

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jp's avatar

She sounds too biased to give an opinion. The drive for the delusion.

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Lida H.'s avatar

She does seem awfully keen to dispense with the "mental illness" aspect of the trans phenomenon. I suppose that's what the Titans of that particular industry happen to be demanding currently, but still...

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Karen Davis's avatar

I wonder if she's been told to stop talking about mental illness because she doesn't know anything about it. When she does, she says stupid crap that's easily debunked, making all of Genspect look foolish and shady. Can't have the public face of the brand tarnishing it with her ignorant statements.

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Lida H.'s avatar

Could well be the case. She does seem to say some truly extraordinary things.

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XxYwise's avatar

The mental illness aspect IS true trans, though. It can't account for ROGD unless you want to say that susceptibility to social contagion is a mental illness, in which case you're essentially saying "adolescent girls are all crazy."

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Tumblebug's avatar

Speaking of puberty, I remember a song on the radio from that time. I like that you sometimes remind of the Bach, etc. from my music education, and sometimes the hard rock tunes that were playing on the radio waves in the mid-Eighties. 🎵 “Stop using sex as a weapon…” 🎶 Pat Benatar was singing that in 1985, and a cursory examination of the lyrics leaves me with the distinct impression that she was singing about/to a narcissist prick. “Love is more than a one way reflection…” Wish some of those garbage fires with graduate degrees (a.k.a. white collar trash) had helped me learn more social skills that year instead of grooming me for sexual abuse and putting me out for rape. All felonious, right here in California, and still no accountability for it, for they don’t like to disparage their colleagues after all. Her white collar scum kind is unfortunately more common than you seem to think, Karen! I heard it’s called rape culture, this system of sexual terrorism we inherited from Ancient Rome. I have no loyalty towards the Professional Managerial Class who exhibits none towards the general population. ☹️ Every damned generation their kind spawns sadistic, manipulative, twisted scandals like TruTrans and whatever.

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kai1's avatar

Really sorry that happened to you.

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Tumblebug's avatar

I’m sorry I can’t stop them from medically cannibalizing children. 😢

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Kayla's avatar

She seems rather autistic.

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Karen Davis's avatar

There does seem to be a little something going on there.

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Kerry Burrell's avatar

Just my opinion, I think Stella is a malignant narcissist. The DARVO is off the charts. She IS dangerous because so many people still enable her. In her recent newsletter, Helen Joyce wrote that Stella is the victim of bullying....

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Karen Davis's avatar

Helen Joyce continues to disappoint, doesn't she?

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Carolyn's avatar

tbf if O'Malley grew up in the 60's 70's in an Irish catholic family it was pretty much just expected that girls live in the family home then they get married have kids. Places kike the Magdelene laundries were a threat to women and girls in those days. A girl who was raped could have been shuffled off to places like that for being raped, geting pregnant out of wedlock, for being promiscuous or even too pretty. I dunno if that might have played a part in her life. She doesn't come across as very knowlegable or professional for her age and profession.

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Karen Davis's avatar

She does seem to be a bit of a dunderhead.

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Lida H.'s avatar

No, it's quite shocking. Professional "irregularities" regarding Psychotherapy in Ireland aside, you would expect a woman of her age who is brought into contact with such a high number of "troubled" girls and young women as an integral part of her job to have a great deal more to say about the historical (and current!) treatment of women in her society. But... Nada. It's glancing "strange", to say the very least.

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kai1's avatar

She doesn't give a damn about women. Don't think she really cares about girls either.

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Carolyn's avatar

Yeah like a history teacher knowing fuckall about history.

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Lida H.'s avatar

15:15 You would imagine that all of this would be instantly recognisable (just intuitively obvious really) to anyone who had grown up in Catholic Ireland, wouldn't you?

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Thistles's avatar

I hate this woman and have a hard time listening to her, but hearing Karen’s detailed description of her adorable teenaged self makes up for it.

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Karen Davis's avatar

Thanks so much!

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Darian Balcom's avatar

I don't think many women are narcissistic, certainly not in the same way men are / can be, but she seems like someone who makes everything about herself and certainly that seems to be her approach to this issue, and the thing is, "trans" is specifically designed to attract people like her, to attract the more narcissistic, self-focused (and immature, as narcissism is normal for children) kinds of people. So it all makes sense. No one can help to get rid of this scourge without taking the birdseye view like Jennifer Bilek and others do.

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Susan Hope Mason's avatar

I am 69, so I can't remember my own puberty that well, since it was so long ago...but I don't remember EVER wanting to be a boy, or even anyone else other than myself. I don't remember my puberty being at all awful, either. Until I got fibroids in my mid to late forties, my periods were actually quite easy. I didn't like the mess of course, but cramps were quite rare, and my periods only lasted about 3 or 4 days.

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Karen Davis's avatar

Exactly. Being female isn't just one endless parade of physical misery and self-loathing. A lot of us are fairly comfortable most of the time.

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