There is no absolute truth in this clown world. No wonder the children are confused and out of control. It used to be adults helped children on the path to truth, gently leading them to know the difference between fantasy and reality. Now children and adults as well are allowed to indulge in their fantasies to the fullest instead of growing out of them. Reality is not allowed to exist in this present world. It is hard for me, as a realist, to have hope. God help us.
Correlation is not causation, however the disturbingly high percentage of people (especially minors) drugged up with neuroleptics who express violence should be noted. Drugs do not help one work through emotional problems, and that includes doctor dope. If drugged without proper behavioral health support, the situation is only made more volatile.
Yet, our jails and prisons, which at this point are the largest mental health treatment facilities in most states and in the country, generally use medications to treat mental illness. If people are in special treatment programs, they get some worksheets with their pills.
And, of course, access to quality psychotherapy is limited everywhere for everyone, due to insurance and financial limits as well as not nearly enough providers to meet demand. But the people who have the least access to therapy are those who are on Medicaid, and depend on public clinics. IF they are lucky enough to see a therapist at all, it is generally a student (and they can be very good, but certainly not all are yet and even the good ones don't have the experience needed to best manage complex cases), and as students rotate placements and graduate, there is no continuity of care. But, those same clinics can have their medication providers see dozens of patients in an 8 hour day at 10 or 15 minutes per visit, and they only need to be seen every month or two or six as opposed to weekly or more often for therapy. So, the people who have the least resources, and who as a population have the most complex social problems and the most significant need, are most likely to get pills and little else, if they get anything at all.
A note, though: while I'm quite skeptical of the effectiveness of psychiatricmedications for most people who are prescribed them (adult or younger), at least in the long term, I do think the concern that they worsen behavior tends to be overstated and is certainly oversimplified. As you noted, correlation isn't causation. We know that the same symptoms and conditions that cause people to be prescribed psych meds, are also strongly associated with a risk of violence. This is true whether meds are involved or not. (Actually, I. people with psychotic symptoms, it is pretty widely accepted that compliance with appropriate medication does indeed lower risk of violence.) So, it's tough to isolate the meds as the cause vs the symptoms or illness themselves.
Some quite good points, but the majority of pysch meds prescribed to children (and prisoners) have a sedating effect (with the notable exception of amphetamine analogs for ADHD etc), which others may view as an 'improvement' in symptoms. Frankly, we don't even know how SSRI's work - our theories on serotonin reuptake have recently been roundly disproven without a corresponding reduction in prescriptions.
The developing brain should not be subjected to drugs of any kind, unless there is patent lability and/or psychosis without other recourse (and of course, a thorough neurological exam has ruled out lesions or other physiological issues). In practice, I rarely saw this occur, but indeed did see the majority of patients medicated as children go on to become medicating and self-medicating adults.
Looking at the history of psychology/psychiatry, one of the core goals seems to be to stop women and girls from having inconvenient feelings. Viewed from that perspective SSRIs are Great Success
Correlation certainly can mean causation however, and I have no faith in the psychological “services” industry or associated medical industrial complex to figure that out, since the chemical treatments dispensed are so insanely profitable. Until this incentive is removed, I will continue to defend myself and my loved ones from their depravity. ☹️ There are too many ghouls with graduate degrees in it practicing with impunity, which is harmful to human health.
‘Drugs do not help one work through emotional problems…’
This! No, they don’t. They erode the ability to know you possess the inner resilience to cope and get through the other side Ok and for you to recognise, appreciate and applaud yourself for doing so. Drugs just numb uncomfortable and depressive feelings.
I think there is far more unknown here than known. I'm wondering how much a part the gender cult even plays in this. I would question good old-fashioned child abuse before I'd bring in genderism. Re Karen's initial statement that children who go all out for genderism probably have a mental illness to begin with, I think she's on the right track.
Yes, we’ve always known this. Detransitioners have always testified to this. Also, we must be really careful and not fall into ‘the trap’ of automatically assuming child abuse. Children can be affected and impacted by their environment, which isn’t necessarily an abusive one but still one that that specific child didn’t have the skills to process and cope with in a healthy manner eg children affected by the tensions, acts and consequences of divorce. Put that alongside the insecurities of being a child and their feelings, childlike reasoning and twist on a set of circumstances and it’s a lethal cocktail within a blame & victim rewarded society.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking this. 14 is young. She clearly had had issues for awhile as she had been on psych meds for awhile. And we're always talking about how trans people commonly have histories of sexual abuse-like, say, a stepfather who molests a girl as she starts developing and a mother who doesn't believe the child or who does but doesn't protect her. Not saying that was the case here, but such things are far, far more common than actual violence (at opposed to vague online threats and puffing) committed by trans people in response to "transphobia".
As to the meds being the problem, that's a hard one because while they have been associated with occasional increases in suicidality, the diagnoses that precede the medications are much more commonly associated with violence to self and others.
If she was well behaved in school, which is actually very possible (boys are often on psych meds for behavioral issues, girls less often-they tend to internalize or act out against themselves more than act up like boys though there are exceptions) then I doubt she's a sociopath as Karen hypothesized, but if she is it's worth noting that the vast majority of sociopaths do have histories of severe childhood abuse.
14 is very young to be charged as an adult, especially given the apparently uncontested psych issues. I agree she needs to be institutionalized somehow, for a long time. And I don't know, maybe she is really dangerous to the general public and always will be. But you want to know how to virtually guarantee that she will be a lifelong criminal (even if she never kills again, she'll steal, use drugs, etc)? Incarcerate her with adults, beginning before she is even 18, and continuing for decades. Instead of high school and college she will literally be going to criminality school, where she will almost certainly have to become violent and threatening in general just to avoid being victimized at her young age. While I don't think even Miss. puts pretrial 14yos in adult facilities, many states will transfer them at 15 or 16 once they are convicted. Thats a whole different type of grooming that will take place there, in a kid who may already be more susceptible to influence. And, as far as actual treatment for her mental health, she'll get none. They may call it that in prison,, but what she gets will be pretty much guaranteed to be totally ineffective and probably essentially non-existent. She will almost certainly be drugged further, with whatever happens to be on the DOC formulary whether or not it's really ideal for her individual circumstances. And if there is a trauma history, the only treatment that can work is long term therapy with a consistent, skilled provider who is a good match for this person, in a safe private environment. That never happens in prison. Period. In fact, incarceration itself is traumatic. While it can be a necessary evil for public safety, we need to be clear that any trauma issues that are already present will almost certainly get worse in prison. Ditto for psychosis, mood disorders, pretty much anything actually.
And another note: Karen noted at the beginning that we have no idea whether this girl was affirmed. I'd go further and say that we don't know if she even used "they" pronouns in the real world as opposed to just online. Regardless, if she also used "she" pronouns there may not have been any real affirmation she was demanding at this point. We have no idea. But then at the end, Karen seems to say that she was in fact affirmed, and to imply that that is part of what led to this.
All in all... This reminds me of that child custody case where the father and stepmother in Montana lost custody to the birth mother in Canada. I think that kid was also 14, also with known mental illness and a probable suicide attempt. In that case she was definitely NOT affitmed at home, btw. In any case, the stepmom was all over the Internet and right wing and Christian media saying the state of Montana (you know, the biggest progressive enclave in the US) took the kid because they refused to affirm. But turns out, there seems to be much more there than just a conflict over how to address gender identity in a troubled kid. There were clearly some other, major problems in that family, the daughter was getting far worse under their care, and so on. It's far too simple to point to some pronouns and declare that to be the main problem, but when kids this are are involved, dollars to donuts there are significant problems at home and/,or serious mental illness at play. Since both those things increase the chances kids will identify as trans, it's not surprising that we're seeing trans kids involved in stuff like this, but these sorts of things happened long before trans kids were a thing, and don't seem to have changed too much underneath the surface, even if there are some different pronouns in the picture nowadays.
Thank you for a thoughtful and measured response. We need to avoid hysteria in reacting to events like this. Americans are the most punitive people I've seen and reflexively tend to fall into incarceration as the solution to everything.
Yep. And, one thing that's happened historically is that sentences have become longer, and programs to actually help people become better people in prison are taken away with the bizarre idea that we'd rather make people suffer more and come out as hardened criminals, than let people have "luxuries" like education and books to read and mental health programming, and have better rehabilitation stats.
Not only do we have by far the highest population of prisoners per capita, but our recidivism rates are actually much worse than other developed countries. In many of those countries, life without parole is extremely rare, and people get treated much more humanely in prison... And they are far less likely to reoffend when they come out.
I've veered way off topic here, but in essence, I agree with your point that we here in America are very punitive, and often this not only conflicts with all the nice things we like to think about ourselves, but in our haste to punish and make people suffer we often end up making ourselves less safe. (Not to mention poorer-mass incarceration ain't cheap, especially considering we get such crappy results.) This isn't just true for the criminal justice system, either. Look at how we treat addicts looking for help: lots of for profit rehabs that are based on 12 step ideology despite it's pitiful success rate that seems to be minimally better than doing nothing and actually makes people more likely to die of OD than if they had gotten no treatment at all. And those same facilities, as well as our hospitals, have an ethos that they medicate people for detox jusssst enough to keep them alive (usually: there are occasional deaths in rehab from severe detox that isn't treated enough). Jails and prisons "manage" detox by throwing people in a cell to shit and puke themselves, and giving them a little medication when they have a seizure. Detox deaths in jails are far more common than they should be, all because we want to make sure people are as uncomfortable as possible. Nevermind that that does nothing to improve their long term outcomes if they survive. They made bad choices, damn it, so people want to see them suffer!
It continually amazes me that we treat so many people worse than animals, and then are surprised when they come out and treat others with the same lack of compassion and humanity.
I don't know if you follow @equalityAlec (Alec Karakatsanis) on X but he posts frequently about criminal justice issues and runs the Civil Rights Corps which has been instrumental in making changes to our corrupt bail system that exists largely to punish poor people.
So valid - so sane. We are at the tipping point, y'all... as we had predicted, the trans cray will expose itself, and like a population explosion in nature, will self rectify. Laws will be rescinded, trans will be labeled as lunacy and outlawed. At the risk of sounding biblically preachy - we shall be proven to have always been correct.
Gruesome and tragic. This is what happens when you don’t address and contain psychological disorders but try to pretend they aren’t disorders/mental breakdowns/disassociations from reality/psychotic behaviour, etc. but normal and individuals living there true authentic self via a fake, self appointed ‘identity’.
Western governments, etc. have done their societies dirty by derelicting in their duty of care and allowing harm to befall people on both sides of this extremely tragic tale ie both parties are clear victims. One directly and one indirectly.
Instead of getting mental health therapy, they are transing kids. No one wants to talk about how testosterone is turning young girls violent.
I am totally opposed to children being charged as adults whether trans or not. We need to stop adultifying children which the trans movement promotes. If you support sending kids to adult prison, you can have no opposition to TRAs treating kids as adults. As an inmates' rights advocate (men being sent to women's prisons is what alerted me to the trans threat), I think most people have zero idea what our criminal justice system is really like and care even less.
My husband worked for over 30 years in a California mental health prison for sexually violent predators (SVP's). I worked only a brief stint at a local county jail. There is very little, if any, actual rehabilitation or "treatment" going on other than medication and a few AA-type meetings on either level.
We tend to throw inconvenient people away.
That said, there are some people who deserve life sentences as their type of psychopathy is untreatable (pedophilia being one prime example). Or a bullet. Yes - I said what I said.
Some do deserve life sentences but I am also opposed to the death penalty and not just because it's racially applied. Life in prison is a far bigger punishment. The older inmates I worked with remember when there were actual programs to rehabilitate but that all went out the window when Reagan became governor of my state. Our failure to support inmates guarantees recidivism but that's the whole point. Because those in power know it's more expensive to imprison than it is to educate and provide care.
Our Supreme Court outlawed LWOP for kids but, to date, I know of no children previously sentenced who have been released. We are the only advanced nation that does this.
Yes, because when you start treating children as adults, assigning adult autonomy including consent to them, it opens a very dark and quite frankly ‘evil’ portal ie for them to participate in adult activities and for adult activities in turn to be done to them. That’s what this movement is pushing for, ‘ no boundaries, no limits’ to carrying out man’s desires and man’s perversities. Literally.
We’ve seen this in the adult content pushed at young children in schools. It starts with LGBTQ+ and ‘inclusiveness, then moves on to the trans/’gender’ pipeline and then ends up in a free for ‘all’ with children & adult images together half naked with S&M paraphinalia in children’s books and the ‘be your authentic self’ tag liine indoctrination. How whole educational authorities, consisting of teams of people, signed off on all this is totally beyond my comprehension.
Ms. Carly's psychopathic behaviour went well beyond 'premeditated'. She planned the gun, the bullets, the murders, calling her step father using her mother's cell phone, playing with the dogs (two Golden Retrievers), inviting a friend to witness the carnage (Imagine the trauma! Carly shot her mother in the face/head). The only thing she did not expect, was being disarmed so she had to 'run' (not part of the plan).
Carly exhibited psychopathic tendencies. Mental health providers are reluctant to stigmatize and diagnose kids with such serious 'adult' conditions, so they prescribe inappropriate drugs for anxiety, depression and ADHD - which exacerbate underlying sociopathic and psychopathic traits.
She may have been arrested and charged as an adult but the courts will definitely order a full psych assessment to determine if she is fit to stand trial. Carly, because of her documented mental health issues, will serve her sentence (if convicted) in a juvenile facility. If she is deemed not criminally responsible, Carly will be admitted to a secure psych hospital. Either way, if she plays the trans card at any point along the way, the outcome will be grim.
This young girl NEEDED serious clinical intervention with proper pharmaceutical regulation. Her parents probably tried to provide the basics but in this era of 'affirmation only', Carly real issues would have been buried under the she/they pronouns. Now there are bodies buried under the pronouns. How tragic!
Years ago, I thought doctors were too quick to give adults prescription meds. As time as moved on, they have gotten worse. In my past, as an adult, I have refused medication when I thought it wasn't needed and I'm glad I did, because the diagnosis was wrong. Doctor wanted to put on a steroid, because of liver levels and I had high cholesterol. A simple test of my thyroid would have told them, I was suffering from hypothyroidism. Once diagnosed properly, all those issues went away. This girl's attorney is probably a public defender and they are the bottom of the barrel in lawyers. Face it, the one person who would have hired a private attorney for this girl, would have been her mother. I'm sure step-dad isn't too keen on helping her. So, this girl will be sent to juvenile prison until she comes an adult onto adult prison. Corrections will keep her on these meds and no one will really evaluate her properly, so she will live in this delusion that she rightfully killed her mom. If she gets off the meds, she may have a devastating realization, she murdered mother. Either way, this girl is going to prison.
Putting kids on psych meds was one of Big Pharma's first steps towards creating life-long patients. Granted, in some few RARE cases, medication may be indicated, but the sheer number of Rx's provided to children over the last several years is literally insane.
This is morbid but “two to the chest, one to the head” (the inverse of what she said) is an internet meme about militant style killing. It has recently gained popularity with TQIA+ children and teens and groomers as a means to “escape the threat of transphobic violence”.
This mother lost her life to (amongst a storm of other things) a distasteful internet meme.
I'm gonna have to assume that this girl is "alleged" to have shot her mother. There is supposed to be the presumption of innocence, because there is a step father involved, etc., and the mother logically could've been shot by someone before the girl got home, by someone unknown.
Whether she's trans or not, I have a problem with 14-year old children being tried as an adult, especially one with mental health issues like trans. There's so much wrong with this story!
There is no absolute truth in this clown world. No wonder the children are confused and out of control. It used to be adults helped children on the path to truth, gently leading them to know the difference between fantasy and reality. Now children and adults as well are allowed to indulge in their fantasies to the fullest instead of growing out of them. Reality is not allowed to exist in this present world. It is hard for me, as a realist, to have hope. God help us.
Correlation is not causation, however the disturbingly high percentage of people (especially minors) drugged up with neuroleptics who express violence should be noted. Drugs do not help one work through emotional problems, and that includes doctor dope. If drugged without proper behavioral health support, the situation is only made more volatile.
Yet, our jails and prisons, which at this point are the largest mental health treatment facilities in most states and in the country, generally use medications to treat mental illness. If people are in special treatment programs, they get some worksheets with their pills.
And, of course, access to quality psychotherapy is limited everywhere for everyone, due to insurance and financial limits as well as not nearly enough providers to meet demand. But the people who have the least access to therapy are those who are on Medicaid, and depend on public clinics. IF they are lucky enough to see a therapist at all, it is generally a student (and they can be very good, but certainly not all are yet and even the good ones don't have the experience needed to best manage complex cases), and as students rotate placements and graduate, there is no continuity of care. But, those same clinics can have their medication providers see dozens of patients in an 8 hour day at 10 or 15 minutes per visit, and they only need to be seen every month or two or six as opposed to weekly or more often for therapy. So, the people who have the least resources, and who as a population have the most complex social problems and the most significant need, are most likely to get pills and little else, if they get anything at all.
A note, though: while I'm quite skeptical of the effectiveness of psychiatricmedications for most people who are prescribed them (adult or younger), at least in the long term, I do think the concern that they worsen behavior tends to be overstated and is certainly oversimplified. As you noted, correlation isn't causation. We know that the same symptoms and conditions that cause people to be prescribed psych meds, are also strongly associated with a risk of violence. This is true whether meds are involved or not. (Actually, I. people with psychotic symptoms, it is pretty widely accepted that compliance with appropriate medication does indeed lower risk of violence.) So, it's tough to isolate the meds as the cause vs the symptoms or illness themselves.
Some quite good points, but the majority of pysch meds prescribed to children (and prisoners) have a sedating effect (with the notable exception of amphetamine analogs for ADHD etc), which others may view as an 'improvement' in symptoms. Frankly, we don't even know how SSRI's work - our theories on serotonin reuptake have recently been roundly disproven without a corresponding reduction in prescriptions.
The developing brain should not be subjected to drugs of any kind, unless there is patent lability and/or psychosis without other recourse (and of course, a thorough neurological exam has ruled out lesions or other physiological issues). In practice, I rarely saw this occur, but indeed did see the majority of patients medicated as children go on to become medicating and self-medicating adults.
First, do no harm.
Looking at the history of psychology/psychiatry, one of the core goals seems to be to stop women and girls from having inconvenient feelings. Viewed from that perspective SSRIs are Great Success
Correlation certainly can mean causation however, and I have no faith in the psychological “services” industry or associated medical industrial complex to figure that out, since the chemical treatments dispensed are so insanely profitable. Until this incentive is removed, I will continue to defend myself and my loved ones from their depravity. ☹️ There are too many ghouls with graduate degrees in it practicing with impunity, which is harmful to human health.
‘Drugs do not help one work through emotional problems…’
This! No, they don’t. They erode the ability to know you possess the inner resilience to cope and get through the other side Ok and for you to recognise, appreciate and applaud yourself for doing so. Drugs just numb uncomfortable and depressive feelings.
I think there is far more unknown here than known. I'm wondering how much a part the gender cult even plays in this. I would question good old-fashioned child abuse before I'd bring in genderism. Re Karen's initial statement that children who go all out for genderism probably have a mental illness to begin with, I think she's on the right track.
instead of meaningful positive therapy, kids (and adults) are given pills & storyline.
Yes, we’ve always known this. Detransitioners have always testified to this. Also, we must be really careful and not fall into ‘the trap’ of automatically assuming child abuse. Children can be affected and impacted by their environment, which isn’t necessarily an abusive one but still one that that specific child didn’t have the skills to process and cope with in a healthy manner eg children affected by the tensions, acts and consequences of divorce. Put that alongside the insecurities of being a child and their feelings, childlike reasoning and twist on a set of circumstances and it’s a lethal cocktail within a blame & victim rewarded society.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking this. 14 is young. She clearly had had issues for awhile as she had been on psych meds for awhile. And we're always talking about how trans people commonly have histories of sexual abuse-like, say, a stepfather who molests a girl as she starts developing and a mother who doesn't believe the child or who does but doesn't protect her. Not saying that was the case here, but such things are far, far more common than actual violence (at opposed to vague online threats and puffing) committed by trans people in response to "transphobia".
As to the meds being the problem, that's a hard one because while they have been associated with occasional increases in suicidality, the diagnoses that precede the medications are much more commonly associated with violence to self and others.
If she was well behaved in school, which is actually very possible (boys are often on psych meds for behavioral issues, girls less often-they tend to internalize or act out against themselves more than act up like boys though there are exceptions) then I doubt she's a sociopath as Karen hypothesized, but if she is it's worth noting that the vast majority of sociopaths do have histories of severe childhood abuse.
14 is very young to be charged as an adult, especially given the apparently uncontested psych issues. I agree she needs to be institutionalized somehow, for a long time. And I don't know, maybe she is really dangerous to the general public and always will be. But you want to know how to virtually guarantee that she will be a lifelong criminal (even if she never kills again, she'll steal, use drugs, etc)? Incarcerate her with adults, beginning before she is even 18, and continuing for decades. Instead of high school and college she will literally be going to criminality school, where she will almost certainly have to become violent and threatening in general just to avoid being victimized at her young age. While I don't think even Miss. puts pretrial 14yos in adult facilities, many states will transfer them at 15 or 16 once they are convicted. Thats a whole different type of grooming that will take place there, in a kid who may already be more susceptible to influence. And, as far as actual treatment for her mental health, she'll get none. They may call it that in prison,, but what she gets will be pretty much guaranteed to be totally ineffective and probably essentially non-existent. She will almost certainly be drugged further, with whatever happens to be on the DOC formulary whether or not it's really ideal for her individual circumstances. And if there is a trauma history, the only treatment that can work is long term therapy with a consistent, skilled provider who is a good match for this person, in a safe private environment. That never happens in prison. Period. In fact, incarceration itself is traumatic. While it can be a necessary evil for public safety, we need to be clear that any trauma issues that are already present will almost certainly get worse in prison. Ditto for psychosis, mood disorders, pretty much anything actually.
And another note: Karen noted at the beginning that we have no idea whether this girl was affirmed. I'd go further and say that we don't know if she even used "they" pronouns in the real world as opposed to just online. Regardless, if she also used "she" pronouns there may not have been any real affirmation she was demanding at this point. We have no idea. But then at the end, Karen seems to say that she was in fact affirmed, and to imply that that is part of what led to this.
All in all... This reminds me of that child custody case where the father and stepmother in Montana lost custody to the birth mother in Canada. I think that kid was also 14, also with known mental illness and a probable suicide attempt. In that case she was definitely NOT affitmed at home, btw. In any case, the stepmom was all over the Internet and right wing and Christian media saying the state of Montana (you know, the biggest progressive enclave in the US) took the kid because they refused to affirm. But turns out, there seems to be much more there than just a conflict over how to address gender identity in a troubled kid. There were clearly some other, major problems in that family, the daughter was getting far worse under their care, and so on. It's far too simple to point to some pronouns and declare that to be the main problem, but when kids this are are involved, dollars to donuts there are significant problems at home and/,or serious mental illness at play. Since both those things increase the chances kids will identify as trans, it's not surprising that we're seeing trans kids involved in stuff like this, but these sorts of things happened long before trans kids were a thing, and don't seem to have changed too much underneath the surface, even if there are some different pronouns in the picture nowadays.
Thank you for a thoughtful and measured response. We need to avoid hysteria in reacting to events like this. Americans are the most punitive people I've seen and reflexively tend to fall into incarceration as the solution to everything.
Yep. And, one thing that's happened historically is that sentences have become longer, and programs to actually help people become better people in prison are taken away with the bizarre idea that we'd rather make people suffer more and come out as hardened criminals, than let people have "luxuries" like education and books to read and mental health programming, and have better rehabilitation stats.
Not only do we have by far the highest population of prisoners per capita, but our recidivism rates are actually much worse than other developed countries. In many of those countries, life without parole is extremely rare, and people get treated much more humanely in prison... And they are far less likely to reoffend when they come out.
I've veered way off topic here, but in essence, I agree with your point that we here in America are very punitive, and often this not only conflicts with all the nice things we like to think about ourselves, but in our haste to punish and make people suffer we often end up making ourselves less safe. (Not to mention poorer-mass incarceration ain't cheap, especially considering we get such crappy results.) This isn't just true for the criminal justice system, either. Look at how we treat addicts looking for help: lots of for profit rehabs that are based on 12 step ideology despite it's pitiful success rate that seems to be minimally better than doing nothing and actually makes people more likely to die of OD than if they had gotten no treatment at all. And those same facilities, as well as our hospitals, have an ethos that they medicate people for detox jusssst enough to keep them alive (usually: there are occasional deaths in rehab from severe detox that isn't treated enough). Jails and prisons "manage" detox by throwing people in a cell to shit and puke themselves, and giving them a little medication when they have a seizure. Detox deaths in jails are far more common than they should be, all because we want to make sure people are as uncomfortable as possible. Nevermind that that does nothing to improve their long term outcomes if they survive. They made bad choices, damn it, so people want to see them suffer!
It continually amazes me that we treat so many people worse than animals, and then are surprised when they come out and treat others with the same lack of compassion and humanity.
I don't know if you follow @equalityAlec (Alec Karakatsanis) on X but he posts frequently about criminal justice issues and runs the Civil Rights Corps which has been instrumental in making changes to our corrupt bail system that exists largely to punish poor people.
So valid - so sane. We are at the tipping point, y'all... as we had predicted, the trans cray will expose itself, and like a population explosion in nature, will self rectify. Laws will be rescinded, trans will be labeled as lunacy and outlawed. At the risk of sounding biblically preachy - we shall be proven to have always been correct.
I agree.
Gruesome and tragic. This is what happens when you don’t address and contain psychological disorders but try to pretend they aren’t disorders/mental breakdowns/disassociations from reality/psychotic behaviour, etc. but normal and individuals living there true authentic self via a fake, self appointed ‘identity’.
Western governments, etc. have done their societies dirty by derelicting in their duty of care and allowing harm to befall people on both sides of this extremely tragic tale ie both parties are clear victims. One directly and one indirectly.
Instead of getting mental health therapy, they are transing kids. No one wants to talk about how testosterone is turning young girls violent.
I am totally opposed to children being charged as adults whether trans or not. We need to stop adultifying children which the trans movement promotes. If you support sending kids to adult prison, you can have no opposition to TRAs treating kids as adults. As an inmates' rights advocate (men being sent to women's prisons is what alerted me to the trans threat), I think most people have zero idea what our criminal justice system is really like and care even less.
My husband worked for over 30 years in a California mental health prison for sexually violent predators (SVP's). I worked only a brief stint at a local county jail. There is very little, if any, actual rehabilitation or "treatment" going on other than medication and a few AA-type meetings on either level.
We tend to throw inconvenient people away.
That said, there are some people who deserve life sentences as their type of psychopathy is untreatable (pedophilia being one prime example). Or a bullet. Yes - I said what I said.
I do agree, and like the idea of a firing squad for pedos!
Some do deserve life sentences but I am also opposed to the death penalty and not just because it's racially applied. Life in prison is a far bigger punishment. The older inmates I worked with remember when there were actual programs to rehabilitate but that all went out the window when Reagan became governor of my state. Our failure to support inmates guarantees recidivism but that's the whole point. Because those in power know it's more expensive to imprison than it is to educate and provide care.
Our Supreme Court outlawed LWOP for kids but, to date, I know of no children previously sentenced who have been released. We are the only advanced nation that does this.
Yes, because when you start treating children as adults, assigning adult autonomy including consent to them, it opens a very dark and quite frankly ‘evil’ portal ie for them to participate in adult activities and for adult activities in turn to be done to them. That’s what this movement is pushing for, ‘ no boundaries, no limits’ to carrying out man’s desires and man’s perversities. Literally.
We’ve seen this in the adult content pushed at young children in schools. It starts with LGBTQ+ and ‘inclusiveness, then moves on to the trans/’gender’ pipeline and then ends up in a free for ‘all’ with children & adult images together half naked with S&M paraphinalia in children’s books and the ‘be your authentic self’ tag liine indoctrination. How whole educational authorities, consisting of teams of people, signed off on all this is totally beyond my comprehension.
Kid was probably in Jeffrey’s children only, hate your parents, private Patreon group.
Ms. Carly's psychopathic behaviour went well beyond 'premeditated'. She planned the gun, the bullets, the murders, calling her step father using her mother's cell phone, playing with the dogs (two Golden Retrievers), inviting a friend to witness the carnage (Imagine the trauma! Carly shot her mother in the face/head). The only thing she did not expect, was being disarmed so she had to 'run' (not part of the plan).
Carly exhibited psychopathic tendencies. Mental health providers are reluctant to stigmatize and diagnose kids with such serious 'adult' conditions, so they prescribe inappropriate drugs for anxiety, depression and ADHD - which exacerbate underlying sociopathic and psychopathic traits.
She may have been arrested and charged as an adult but the courts will definitely order a full psych assessment to determine if she is fit to stand trial. Carly, because of her documented mental health issues, will serve her sentence (if convicted) in a juvenile facility. If she is deemed not criminally responsible, Carly will be admitted to a secure psych hospital. Either way, if she plays the trans card at any point along the way, the outcome will be grim.
This young girl NEEDED serious clinical intervention with proper pharmaceutical regulation. Her parents probably tried to provide the basics but in this era of 'affirmation only', Carly real issues would have been buried under the she/they pronouns. Now there are bodies buried under the pronouns. How tragic!
Years ago, I thought doctors were too quick to give adults prescription meds. As time as moved on, they have gotten worse. In my past, as an adult, I have refused medication when I thought it wasn't needed and I'm glad I did, because the diagnosis was wrong. Doctor wanted to put on a steroid, because of liver levels and I had high cholesterol. A simple test of my thyroid would have told them, I was suffering from hypothyroidism. Once diagnosed properly, all those issues went away. This girl's attorney is probably a public defender and they are the bottom of the barrel in lawyers. Face it, the one person who would have hired a private attorney for this girl, would have been her mother. I'm sure step-dad isn't too keen on helping her. So, this girl will be sent to juvenile prison until she comes an adult onto adult prison. Corrections will keep her on these meds and no one will really evaluate her properly, so she will live in this delusion that she rightfully killed her mom. If she gets off the meds, she may have a devastating realization, she murdered mother. Either way, this girl is going to prison.
I do not agree that she should be tried as an adult. She should almost certainly be in a psych facility.
Putting kids on psych meds was one of Big Pharma's first steps towards creating life-long patients. Granted, in some few RARE cases, medication may be indicated, but the sheer number of Rx's provided to children over the last several years is literally insane.
This is morbid but “two to the chest, one to the head” (the inverse of what she said) is an internet meme about militant style killing. It has recently gained popularity with TQIA+ children and teens and groomers as a means to “escape the threat of transphobic violence”.
This mother lost her life to (amongst a storm of other things) a distasteful internet meme.
And, as always, thank you for your work, Karen xxx
Something's off with the audio. Sounds muffled
I'm gonna have to assume that this girl is "alleged" to have shot her mother. There is supposed to be the presumption of innocence, because there is a step father involved, etc., and the mother logically could've been shot by someone before the girl got home, by someone unknown.
Whether she's trans or not, I have a problem with 14-year old children being tried as an adult, especially one with mental health issues like trans. There's so much wrong with this story!
Rest in Peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️ Innocent Mother 🙏🏾
🔥If this is a transgender identifying as "She" then it is biologically a boy. I'm just saying
This young demon needs to be charged as an adult.
This is a horrible horrible story that is anti-human