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Lida H's avatar

11:03 "I get transphobes trying to hassle me online" probably = "I spend most of my time online harassing the women who object to us usurping their rights" BTW.

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Kerry A's avatar

I wonder how many of those 'transphobes' are women telling him to get out of their spaces?

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Like... all.

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Right! Lol...

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dragonfox2.0's avatar

They also tend to parrot each other. One says something, and they all start thinking about it. Or repeating the same thing. It's a pack mentality with men

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Amanda Grimes's avatar

The parrot thing is true but they're not all mentally ill for the vast majority it's just a bunch of men reinforcing each other's kink and the fantasy they have built up around it.

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Absolutely. These men know very well the 'power' in unity and resistance. They don't want to go back to the good old days when they were seen for 'who they actually are', 'the authentic' them ie super weird, deviant men, acting out their kinks and perversions that society reviled and shunned them for. They've invested heavily in normalising these perversions so that the stigma doesn't exist and there's no denying they've been incredibly successful. The aggressive, unashamed emergence of the 'trans child' is evidence of that.

They are going to fight tooth and nail to maintain the status quo and repeating in a cult-like fashion their various mantras and false narratives ie magical thinking and speak it into reality is all very much part of it. You speak to anyone of them and it's like the same automatic recorder playing. Irrespective of the conversation and evidence produced to them. It's quite surreal.

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Essy's avatar

Men are like this on every issue. When men talk about women, it's like they have all been provided the same script. Which they have.

Men's incorruptible loyalty to men and hatred of women is universal.

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Lida H's avatar

It does seem to me that often when these people are referred to the "gender specialist", they are discharged from the mental health services upon which they would otherwise rely - at least in my neck of the woods.

It does everyone quite the disservice.

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Amanda Grimes's avatar

It used to be that you had to have been in therapy for some considerable time before you even got near a "gender specialist". I spent over 3 years in therapy before being referred to what was then a psycho-sexual specialist and then a gender specialist. Even that has it's issues. The standards of care in mental health are and were never great.

But a cross-dressing fetish is not a mental illness it's just a kink, that these guys have let get out of hand. It's no more a mental illness than people who get off wearing PVC and Rubber! AGP is a little different there may well be a mental illness component it's difficult to tell because they are all such raging narcissists.

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Lida H's avatar

Quite. Activists really haven't been shy about the fact that they want to remove *ALL* safeguarding, and medical culpability in their favour, along with the boundaries of women and children. I've seen quite a number of vulnerable people (men, women and minors) who were troubled/had diagnoses of conditions such as autism, OCD and histories of trauma being seemingly rushed through "GAC" with little regard to their well-being or the permanent physical effects.

The "gender" angle can obscure these things, even, or especially to the individual themselves. That's more what I meant.

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Nicki M.'s avatar

The gender angle very much 'intentionally' ignores and indeed goes out of it's way to obscure blatant and subtle underlying issues by not exploring or even considering other issues might even exist in vulnerable patients. This completely goes against standard and good psycho-medical practice. Something that is adhered to strictly, outside of the 'gender' field of specialism.

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kai1's avatar

There is a book "Don't Get on the Plane: Why a Sex Change WIll Ruin Your Life"' by Rene Jax, who has been a troon for decades. He wrote the book to try to prevent men from going down this path. He mentioned that he has known a lot of troons and has only known one that has been able sustain a long-term relationship. The book is definitely better than nothing, but isn't well written. Does anyone know of a similar book?

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Amanda Grimes's avatar

There are several book in that vein. "Better Sure Than Sorry" by Dr. Raj Pathagoerer. "Transgenda" by Alex Serritella and Walt Heyer has about 4 or 5 books published (bit preachy though).

There are quite a few HSTS trannies who are in long term relationships. Caroline Cossey has been married to David Finch for 33 years. Stephen Whittle has been with her wife Sarah for 45 years. Next month my husband and I will have been a couple for 34 years. The fact that Rene Jax has been unable to maintain a relationship perhaps says more about Rene's personality and the incompetence of American surgeons!

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Did you ever watch that old BBC documentary, 'A Change of Sex' about Julia Grant's transsexual journey?

In that documentary was a very young Stephen Whittle with her girlfriend, now wife. I remember thinking she reminds me of someone but I couldn't think who as they didn't say her name in the documentary. She represented the FTM transsexual in the documentary. Then I thought Stephen Whittle! However, when I googled I couldn't find any reference to Stephen ever being in the documentary. However, Stephen's wife's features haven't changed. It was a tiny bit harder to be certain with Stephen because back then she was fresh faced and beardless, whereas she sports a beard now which obscures her characteristic features.

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Nicki M.'s avatar

I love your honesty and appreciate it. A true 'old school' transsexual who by definition is a sexual realist.

The trans movement has really messed it up for literally everyone in the circle. Including the genuine old schoolers who simply wanted to blend seamlessly into society, with no fuss or attention, and live their best life. Most people did not have a problem with that at all because it didn't negatively affect them.

However, the trans movement of the last 10 - 15 yrs to the present day has been nothing short of disrespectful, narcissistic, misogynistic and pure deluded evil, in my humble opinion.

I hear you, Amanda! And yes you are so right.

'I should change my user name to Dances With Wolves!'

You should!😂

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Amanda Grimes's avatar

I saw one of the later ones (I think there were 3 films in documentary series) I didn't know Stephen was in them! I met Stephen a couple of times at a gender clinic must have been 1985/86. Nice enough person but a raging "Leftie" borderline communist though. She had the beard by then.

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Yes, the documentary is still on BBC Player. It's been on my watch list for about a year. It's in 5 parts.

Oh really! That's so interesting.

So are you trans identifying then? Or is it your husband? How does it feel for you to be amongst such vocal pro-sexual realists, pro-woman's rights and very anti-misogyny in all forms including trans?

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Amanda Grimes's avatar

Yes I am transsexual. I went through the medical process a little over 40 years ago. I have always been a sexual realist myself, I never believed for one moment I could actually become a woman. Despite what I look like to the outside world, I am in reality a feminine and feminised homosexual male. I was diagnosed with Gender Identity Disorder as a teen and the symptoms were particularly profound.

I have always been critical of the "trans" movement and the nature of most of those within it. So I share much of the criticisms discussed here.

I have in fact avoided other trannies like the plague. The last time I spoke face to face with another tranny was about 36 years ago. The vast majority of them are AGP or crossdressing straight dudes and half the gay ones are nuts!

I have basically spent my entire adult life living AS IF I was a female with almost everyone around me believing me to be so. All my friends are and have been women. I've seen first hand the shit women have to put up with from men and society as a whole. I suppose you could say I've "gone native" 😂😂 . I should change my user name to Dances With Wolves!

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dragonfox2.0's avatar

🥇

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zelosaletheia's avatar

I know what you mean but it's still mental illness namely extreme narcissism.

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Without a doubt.

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zelosaletheia's avatar

You know what the reaction of my "leftist" ex-friends would be "These are just fake troons". 🤣

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Lida H's avatar

Fake fakers, LOL. Hearing stuff like that only pushed me further into fully waking up to the broader implications for society in general.

For example: I once (several years ago) saw reports that a whole lot of scummy male politicians/would be politicians from somewhere like Argentina or Chile exploiting a "gender quota" designed to allow women more opportunity to participate in parliament by declaring trans identities and my leftie friends were like "ZOMG! Imagine how 'real' trans women there must feel?"! 🙄🙇‍♀️

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Nicki M.'s avatar

The cruel irony of describing some men as 'real', who have done everything within their power to deny and hide the fact that they are and always will be men, despite the huge masquerade of pretending to be women (because that is what it actually is and can only ever be, a masquerade).

Fake fakers! Lol... Don't men who play dress up and who go into women's exclusive spaces to expose themselves, harass, commit sexual assault or indulge in voyeurism come into that category? When it's presented as evidence of the risks and lack of safety to women, the defence from other trans identified men is always 'that was a 'cis' man faking being trans'. Whilst simultaneously strongly arguing that anyone who ID's as a woman is a woman and they can't be questioned on it. If they say they are a woman then they are a 'trans woman'. These men make it up as they go along and are completely divorced from rational thinking.

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Lida H's avatar

Exactly! The women who carry water for them in this manner are pretty baffling to me, tbqh...

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Right? Completely baffling to me too as it's very undermining of women which includes their own status as women.

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Jai Byrd's avatar

Men will never be Women‼️

With sex reassignment it proves that men ♂️are not women♀️.

They not like us‼️

I've attached a full clip of a reassignment surgery.

Please feel free to give feedback

⚠️ https://youtu.be/0N-xfAGXtsE?si=VEdG5CAl2TIROYdj

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Facts. That castration surgery was brutal to watch.

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Jai Byrd's avatar

I know right

This shows how powerful it is to be naturally born female. No mechanic was needed outside of the development in the womb.

We Are Created Perfect from Conception....not from Dr. Frankenstein

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Absolutely!🎯👏🏾

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Feather Duster's avatar

When Trump interferes with Medicaid as he is rumbling, how are these men going to get their cross-sex hormones and surgeries attempting to repair the problems from previous surgeries? When your lower body hurts, as it will from the infections they'll be so prone to, men, you won't want to move, to bend, to BREATHE hard. It may be slightly euphoric for you, to imagine you're having 'exquisite' menstrual pain. However a woman's period may hurt, we do know exactly what it is and why it hurts; we know our body is equipped for this routine passage, and, it's going to be over by x day, and so certainly, that we can make plans for that day. Your pain is going to get worse, it's going to spread and you're going to be UPSET. It will be a terrifying feeling to have while searching for a new doctor when your Medicaid is OFF and your doctor who’d kindly been accepting it has to turn you down--no, he or she won't talk to you, the office manager will turn you down COLD, and you don't have thousands of dollars laying around for the new patient appt, consultation with specialists, xrays, tests, and ultimately, it'll be referral to a local upholsterer. They will have about as much useful knowledge about putting you back together as the sleazebag 'surgeon' who took you apart. If you're planning it, abort. Look there, you can do an 'abortion'! You ARE a woman!

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Trish Randall's avatar

If there have always been men who wanted to be ladies, as the troons claim, that means there have always been men who kept this shit to themselves. Maybe that's the best option.

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