Well, at least they didn't get raped like lesbians would. This reminds me of my own experience with a troon back in the 80s. He didn't get me in bed though, noway. POS
You know what? I bet she would do that if she could. Ironic, isn't it, that she knows enough to know that men are physically stronger than her and have the very real capacity to rape her in these situations (as opposed to her intention of rape by deception which she intends to perform upon them).
I have an experience with a troon from back in the early 90's, I was only 19y/o & looking back now, Jeez it's enlightening! HE was definitley grooming me bedward... Well done you for not allowing that troon to get you to bed stage, either.
Would you say that, as women, even back then there was something in our instinct telling us exactly what this troonery really is? I would. I'm just interested in other women's experiences such as the one you mention briefly here. So, Apologies for the long comment! Xx
I came out in 1971 and I saw these cats at some party. Great big men in dresses. One of them looked at me like he wanted to kill me, and that was all I needed to know. Then, at the Michigan Women's Music Festival they would try to come in and hang around, and we put a stop to that right away. Woman born of woman ONLY. It worked until they came back with guns in 2016.
Pieces of shit!
I've been a TERF since before there was a word for it, girlfriend
Oh, I have so much respect for women like you! THANK YOU! (((Hug))) Not just for your comment here, but also for your continued terfery even before there was a word for it - and I totally believe you, too, because I know that it's women like you who help keep women like me alive. I mean that, too, it is no understatement, no exaggeration.
You came out in '71, I was BORN in '76; so as a lesbian myself I am very much standing on the shoulders of giants, women such as yourself, women who came before me & who paved the way for lesbians like me to come out as lesbians so much easier than the generations before us had it. All the lesbians who fought to build some tolerance for us in this world... I for one will not allow that legacy to be erased, lost, or destroyed. Especially not by a bunch of lying, invasive, misogynistic men. (I think you describe 'em better with "Pieces of shit", tho'!)
I do my bit as much as possible because it is true what I say: the women & lesbians that went before us and who knew what all this trans B.S was about before terf was even a thing - women such as yourself, - You are never given the credit you're due, so I want to do that now:
From me, and all lesbians who benefit from your generations work in this area (so, that would just be "All lesbians", then!) From me and ALL lesbians, I Thank you with all my heart & soul xxx Solidarty Through the Ages, my friend! I promise you that xxx
"Who on Earth would ever think to encourage anyone to commit rape by deception?" I hear you cry!
The Australian government - of course...
The Victorian state government has (or at least it did have) a rather snazzily designed website positively brimming with advice for "AFAB folx" as to how most easily to commit rape by deception against gay men aka "remain unclocked" whilst cruising bathhouses and various other beats.
It was horrifying - so much so that people did in fact complain about it. Just imagine what would happen if any government anywhere provided it's citizens with advice as to how best break any of it's laws *against* trans-identifying people!
BTW: thanks for the trigger warning. I usually loathe that sort of thing, but I'm very glad I decided to put off listening until after I'd eaten...
Do they offer the same advice to male trannies on how to sleep with straight guys? Bet your ass they don't! Gay men are certainly more likely to be forgiving in such situations even if they are pissed off at you but a big straight guy is just as likely to beat the shit out of you or beat you to death.
Testosterone plays a major part in this behaviour I'm sure as it lessens your perception of risk.
There is no "trans" genocide, but when violence does occur against cross-dressing men in particular it's because of trying to trick men, particularly in prostitution.
These so called "Gay Transmen" are no different than than the so called "Trans Lesbians" (dick or no dick). They are heterosexual, they have zero understanding of psyche or mechanisms of attraction of gay men or lesbian women.
It makes me laugh when these younger people call these encounter's "Dates" and refer to "Dating Apps". They're not dating apps they're sex apps! You meet up with someone, have sex and then never see one another again. Dude takes you to see a movie, to dinner or to some social function. that's a date. A ten minute chat over a Starbucks latte then back to his place to fuck is not a date!
I'm guessing you're somewhat older... hookup culture and fourth wave feminism ruined dating for everyone that's currently under age 35-40. Destroyed dating, in fact. A lot of us have given up entirely because these cultural shifts have conditioned men to expect access to our bodies two seconds after meeting, and then everyone even slightly left leaning denigrates women who don't want to be treated like a Japanese sex robot. The bar is so low it's in hell.
I'm guessing the yaoi fangirls pretending to be gay are using dating apps in the same predatory way men do as part of their "gender identity" -- lying as much as required to get each victim's pants off, and moving on to the next one.
My friend's daughter's husband died sadly when she was only 34 She is now 38 and recently she was encouraged to join what was supposed to be a respectable "Dating App" by her friends. A week later she had a phone full of "dick pics". She has decided to stay single!
i doubt they experience any more violence than the average person. Also, I really don't like the idea of blaming people for violence they've incurred. Even if someone tricks you into getting into be with them, you have no excuse to be violent.
This is doing exactly nothing to change my bigotphobic opinion that pooners are the adult version of socially awkward 13 year old girls who read yaoi because the regular trash romance is too rapey and misogynistic.
One of my high school friends was the creepy yaoi girl who had an intense fetish for gay men, but gender ideology didn't go mainstream until after she got married... now she forces her fat liberal husband to pretend he's queer so she can live out her teenage yaoi fantasy. Reading that stuff as an early teen messed up her sexuality, big time.
This really is hard core metal, Karen. Throwing up a little in my mouth
Well, at least they didn't get raped like lesbians would. This reminds me of my own experience with a troon back in the 80s. He didn't get me in bed though, noway. POS
You know what? I bet she would do that if she could. Ironic, isn't it, that she knows enough to know that men are physically stronger than her and have the very real capacity to rape her in these situations (as opposed to her intention of rape by deception which she intends to perform upon them).
I have an experience with a troon from back in the early 90's, I was only 19y/o & looking back now, Jeez it's enlightening! HE was definitley grooming me bedward... Well done you for not allowing that troon to get you to bed stage, either.
Would you say that, as women, even back then there was something in our instinct telling us exactly what this troonery really is? I would. I'm just interested in other women's experiences such as the one you mention briefly here. So, Apologies for the long comment! Xx
I came out in 1971 and I saw these cats at some party. Great big men in dresses. One of them looked at me like he wanted to kill me, and that was all I needed to know. Then, at the Michigan Women's Music Festival they would try to come in and hang around, and we put a stop to that right away. Woman born of woman ONLY. It worked until they came back with guns in 2016.
Pieces of shit!
I've been a TERF since before there was a word for it, girlfriend
Oh, I have so much respect for women like you! THANK YOU! (((Hug))) Not just for your comment here, but also for your continued terfery even before there was a word for it - and I totally believe you, too, because I know that it's women like you who help keep women like me alive. I mean that, too, it is no understatement, no exaggeration.
You came out in '71, I was BORN in '76; so as a lesbian myself I am very much standing on the shoulders of giants, women such as yourself, women who came before me & who paved the way for lesbians like me to come out as lesbians so much easier than the generations before us had it. All the lesbians who fought to build some tolerance for us in this world... I for one will not allow that legacy to be erased, lost, or destroyed. Especially not by a bunch of lying, invasive, misogynistic men. (I think you describe 'em better with "Pieces of shit", tho'!)
I do my bit as much as possible because it is true what I say: the women & lesbians that went before us and who knew what all this trans B.S was about before terf was even a thing - women such as yourself, - You are never given the credit you're due, so I want to do that now:
From me, and all lesbians who benefit from your generations work in this area (so, that would just be "All lesbians", then!) From me and ALL lesbians, I Thank you with all my heart & soul xxx Solidarty Through the Ages, my friend! I promise you that xxx
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"Who on Earth would ever think to encourage anyone to commit rape by deception?" I hear you cry!
The Australian government - of course...
The Victorian state government has (or at least it did have) a rather snazzily designed website positively brimming with advice for "AFAB folx" as to how most easily to commit rape by deception against gay men aka "remain unclocked" whilst cruising bathhouses and various other beats.
It was horrifying - so much so that people did in fact complain about it. Just imagine what would happen if any government anywhere provided it's citizens with advice as to how best break any of it's laws *against* trans-identifying people!
BTW: thanks for the trigger warning. I usually loathe that sort of thing, but I'm very glad I decided to put off listening until after I'd eaten...
Do they offer the same advice to male trannies on how to sleep with straight guys? Bet your ass they don't! Gay men are certainly more likely to be forgiving in such situations even if they are pissed off at you but a big straight guy is just as likely to beat the shit out of you or beat you to death.
Testosterone plays a major part in this behaviour I'm sure as it lessens your perception of risk.
It' was so revolting, and of course not! I could scarcely believe it when I saw it.
There is no "trans" genocide, but when violence does occur against cross-dressing men in particular it's because of trying to trick men, particularly in prostitution.
I think myself a cool headed gay man.
but this deception, this chameleon-isque troonery and RBD. I'd be throwing hands/calling 911!
It occurs to me we could call them 'transpoons'
These so called "Gay Transmen" are no different than than the so called "Trans Lesbians" (dick or no dick). They are heterosexual, they have zero understanding of psyche or mechanisms of attraction of gay men or lesbian women.
It makes me laugh when these younger people call these encounter's "Dates" and refer to "Dating Apps". They're not dating apps they're sex apps! You meet up with someone, have sex and then never see one another again. Dude takes you to see a movie, to dinner or to some social function. that's a date. A ten minute chat over a Starbucks latte then back to his place to fuck is not a date!
I'm guessing you're somewhat older... hookup culture and fourth wave feminism ruined dating for everyone that's currently under age 35-40. Destroyed dating, in fact. A lot of us have given up entirely because these cultural shifts have conditioned men to expect access to our bodies two seconds after meeting, and then everyone even slightly left leaning denigrates women who don't want to be treated like a Japanese sex robot. The bar is so low it's in hell.
I'm guessing the yaoi fangirls pretending to be gay are using dating apps in the same predatory way men do as part of their "gender identity" -- lying as much as required to get each victim's pants off, and moving on to the next one.
You are correct. I'm in my 60's thankfully!
My friend's daughter's husband died sadly when she was only 34 She is now 38 and recently she was encouraged to join what was supposed to be a respectable "Dating App" by her friends. A week later she had a phone full of "dick pics". She has decided to stay single!
The whole thing is an obvious sex cult
EXCELLENT commentary, Karen.
What a creepy story. Even creepier, because it's not a story. It's TRUE!
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🥇Slow pokes!😘
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I would argue that 99.9 percent of violence against these people is because of their deception.
True, that and getting into prostitution
i doubt they experience any more violence than the average person. Also, I really don't like the idea of blaming people for violence they've incurred. Even if someone tricks you into getting into be with them, you have no excuse to be violent.
sounds like she's giving head & regular "bonus hole" sex.
That is so dangerous. Is she trying to get killed?
i do remember this original post.. not too old. she's really stupid or completely brainwashed.
This is doing exactly nothing to change my bigotphobic opinion that pooners are the adult version of socially awkward 13 year old girls who read yaoi because the regular trash romance is too rapey and misogynistic.
One of my high school friends was the creepy yaoi girl who had an intense fetish for gay men, but gender ideology didn't go mainstream until after she got married... now she forces her fat liberal husband to pretend he's queer so she can live out her teenage yaoi fantasy. Reading that stuff as an early teen messed up her sexuality, big time.
Very pleased to say I had to Google what yaoi was! Kinda wishing I hadn't now
This is crazy,but then you have to be crazy to go down this road in the first place.
She's playing with fire though and very lucky that none of these men were violent.
G-d. Listen to this shit! This is like... Sexual predation normalised. It's Crazy, & Frightening, for a million reasons.
And there's little old* me just looking for another lesbian who's up for a bit of traditional old-school lezzery together. *Sigh*
*49, don't push it, lol ;-) xx
It used to be so easy to find us...not anymore:::::::::::::::sigh::::::::::::::::