It is cruel but, sadly, no longer unusual. In the US, the 8th Amendment only applies when both elements are present. I think that was part of the purpose of keeping this information from the public.
Even conservative media won't talk about it. I think it's because women in jail are considered throwaways by everyone. Interesting, isn't it, though, that the libs let male criminals out of jail, particularly black males while female criminals are still trafficked to dysfunctional men, by the very Libs who rend their garments over criminal males.
Women also tend to get longer sentences for the same crimes as men. I don't know if it's that we're just seen as throwaways or that people tend to be more shocked when women commit crimes. All inmates are treated as throwaways except for trans. I've worked in inmates' rights advocacy for years and found no one give a crap despite the horrid conditions in our jails and prisons. Only when trans showed up did people suddenly start shedding tears.
Cruel and unusual punishment refers to punishment that fails to meet social decency standards – it is overly painful, torturous, degrading, or humiliating. I hope women will be able to sue under Trump. Canada has no hope yet….
I actually litigated 8th Amendment lawsuits. It has zero to do with "social decency" which is not a legal standard. It has to do with actions which "shock the conscience" (considering we don't have consciences anymore, this is superfluous or would be so beyond extreme one cannot imagine). involve the unnecessary and wanton infliction of pain (also hard to establish with what we did in the Iraq) but both elements need to be present for it to apply. These are extremely hard lawsuits to pursue especially now as USG has prohibited awards of legal fees beyond nominal amounts so only the wealthy can afford to do them.
About ten years ago when I called emergency services for my porn-addicted alcoholic landlord, I was told by the sheriff’s deputy who arrived that, and I am quoting verbatim, “He’s a man! He can do what he wants!” 😳
Idr where exactly it was, but there was one highschool troon who was said to be egged on by the other boys - because those boys found it funny to see him punching girls and funny that they could, sort of, beat up girls via the troon. Point being, I'm wondering if these prison guards are that type 🤔 Just standing there and watching a deranged man beat the shit out of a woman sounds like something the 'I thought you slags wanted equality 😂' type males would sign up for
That's the ONLY kind of "man" who accepts that shit for women in "civilized" society. Men who are pieces of shit, and want women to suffer. It's tragic how common it is.
This is why I support the birth rate plummeting to hell!!! We can't stop men from feeling hatred towards everything and everyone who isn't male, but we can put an end to their very existence or reduce it drastically!!! Misogyny is the most loathsome wart on the male god's penis!
Men have really deteriorated since the 80s. They're a whole different level of stupid and hateful that would have been unthinkable before the internet. Back in the day, you had to expect one weirdo per group, but everyone recognized the weirdo as a weirdo and didn't pretend that he wasn't weird and maybe dangerous. Now, they emulate the weirdo, praise him and want to fight anyone who calls the weirdo 'a weirdo'.
We are only beginning to understand intergenerational trauma yet these people think that trauma done to a person unconscious/pre-memory forming doesn't count? This seems more of an excuse to let men off heinous crimes because men are seen as more valuable than women and children. The government also relies on the public's general disregard for the imprisoned as if they deserve whatever torture they receive (including solitary which is considered torture by international human rights standards).
When they say "but it's only 1%!" they are not thinking about the 51% who are injured by the 1% One single violent man in prison terrorizes the entire female prison population. One single man in a women's group silences the rest of the group. As Eugene Debs famously said, “While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal element, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free.” As long as there are men invading women's spaces, none of us are free.
That's a tough one. Sociopath's brains are wired differently, so quite a few of them don't really experience anxiety. I agree that all protections should be removed from this freak, though, and he needs to go back to MALE prison.
Putting men in female prisons and then deny the women the right to object is the epitome of cruel and unusual punishment.
It really is. How this isn't being argued in courts as a human rights abuse is beyond me.
It is cruel but, sadly, no longer unusual. In the US, the 8th Amendment only applies when both elements are present. I think that was part of the purpose of keeping this information from the public.
Even conservative media won't talk about it. I think it's because women in jail are considered throwaways by everyone. Interesting, isn't it, though, that the libs let male criminals out of jail, particularly black males while female criminals are still trafficked to dysfunctional men, by the very Libs who rend their garments over criminal males.
Women also tend to get longer sentences for the same crimes as men. I don't know if it's that we're just seen as throwaways or that people tend to be more shocked when women commit crimes. All inmates are treated as throwaways except for trans. I've worked in inmates' rights advocacy for years and found no one give a crap despite the horrid conditions in our jails and prisons. Only when trans showed up did people suddenly start shedding tears.
Cruel and unusual punishment refers to punishment that fails to meet social decency standards – it is overly painful, torturous, degrading, or humiliating. I hope women will be able to sue under Trump. Canada has no hope yet….
I actually litigated 8th Amendment lawsuits. It has zero to do with "social decency" which is not a legal standard. It has to do with actions which "shock the conscience" (considering we don't have consciences anymore, this is superfluous or would be so beyond extreme one cannot imagine). involve the unnecessary and wanton infliction of pain (also hard to establish with what we did in the Iraq) but both elements need to be present for it to apply. These are extremely hard lawsuits to pursue especially now as USG has prohibited awards of legal fees beyond nominal amounts so only the wealthy can afford to do them.
Interesting. Thanks for the insights.
About ten years ago when I called emergency services for my porn-addicted alcoholic landlord, I was told by the sheriff’s deputy who arrived that, and I am quoting verbatim, “He’s a man! He can do what he wants!” 😳
And there ya have it. That pretty much sums up our society.
Idr where exactly it was, but there was one highschool troon who was said to be egged on by the other boys - because those boys found it funny to see him punching girls and funny that they could, sort of, beat up girls via the troon. Point being, I'm wondering if these prison guards are that type 🤔 Just standing there and watching a deranged man beat the shit out of a woman sounds like something the 'I thought you slags wanted equality 😂' type males would sign up for
Wouldn't surprise me at all.
As a society, we need to make better men. I don't know how we're going to do this, but it's something that we need to do, like right now.
Yeah,this entire movement is exactly what those neanderthal shitwits have been waiting for.
That's the ONLY kind of "man" who accepts that shit for women in "civilized" society. Men who are pieces of shit, and want women to suffer. It's tragic how common it is.
This is why I support the birth rate plummeting to hell!!! We can't stop men from feeling hatred towards everything and everyone who isn't male, but we can put an end to their very existence or reduce it drastically!!! Misogyny is the most loathsome wart on the male god's penis!
Men have really deteriorated since the 80s. They're a whole different level of stupid and hateful that would have been unthinkable before the internet. Back in the day, you had to expect one weirdo per group, but everyone recognized the weirdo as a weirdo and didn't pretend that he wasn't weird and maybe dangerous. Now, they emulate the weirdo, praise him and want to fight anyone who calls the weirdo 'a weirdo'.
String him up by his balls and forget about him.
We are only beginning to understand intergenerational trauma yet these people think that trauma done to a person unconscious/pre-memory forming doesn't count? This seems more of an excuse to let men off heinous crimes because men are seen as more valuable than women and children. The government also relies on the public's general disregard for the imprisoned as if they deserve whatever torture they receive (including solitary which is considered torture by international human rights standards).
When they say "but it's only 1%!" they are not thinking about the 51% who are injured by the 1% One single violent man in prison terrorizes the entire female prison population. One single man in a women's group silences the rest of the group. As Eugene Debs famously said, “While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal element, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free.” As long as there are men invading women's spaces, none of us are free.
Well said.
Can we just throw this one into a wood chipper? or at least the section of a male prison where people who are incarcerated for life go?
I'm all for it.
5 years added? I need to know what case this was. What was this woman's name?
Here's a link to the vid I did on it.
https://open.substack.com/pub/ykright/p/jailed-woman-loses-parole-gets-5?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
He got access to a mother/baby ward!!! What level of dick-pandering is this?
It's really infuriating and disheartening.
BURY HIM UNDER THE PRISON
ALIVE!
YES!
Anything that would actually provoke anxiety in someone who is so clearly a psychopath would be good to see, I agree.
That's a tough one. Sociopath's brains are wired differently, so quite a few of them don't really experience anxiety. I agree that all protections should be removed from this freak, though, and he needs to go back to MALE prison.