17:11 The primary issue is the fact that this poor bastard wasn't allowed to go through puberty! That cannot be fixed with the post-hoc addition of various exogenous hormones. Scientists/medicine doesn't even have that great of a grasp on what precisely the endocrine system does during adolescence, and they can't just approximate the subtleties of the developing body even if they actually did! The body is not an automobile, FFS! All the tinkering in the world can't give this poor soul back what's been so cruelly stolen from him.
The goal is to destroy the kid's health, so putting him on yet more drugs would serve that purpose. That's why ALL of this needs to be illegal for kids and adults.
They're not entirely wrong. Taken long enough, at a high enough dosage, they'll definitely destroy their bodies, which is the goal of these self-hating loons.
Amazing—and not in a good way—this is the insanity embraced by the leadership in the blue states. And the rest of us are the “bigots” for not wanting this medically-facilitated evil to occur. Imagine the dinner table conversation in this wacko family’s household! Also imagine how many lives have been destroyed by the dumbasses on Reddit egging each other on with this madness.
People who get allografts (cadaver skin) require immunosuppressant drugs sometimes indefinitely. Those drugs give further complications such as lowering the immune system's ability to function and increased cancer risk. Just what you need when recovering from major surgery.
🤦🏼aye yay yay I have not specifically researched the surgeries these folks are having... cadaver skin? huh. add yet another ghoulish aspect to this ideology of human dysfunction.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaack!!! What the hell?! Don't discuss masturbatory habits, your child's, your own, or anyone else's, with your kid!!! I am Karen's age, both my parents have been dead for years, and the mere thought of ever having this sort of discussion with either of them gives me a major case of the heebie-jeebies. It makes me feel nauseous. That is healthy. This mother makes me think we should bring back the pillory so we can all throw rotting tomatoes at her in the public square. Sadly, if her kid does do himself in because of the damage she facilitated, she will likely just use his suicide as another way to garner attention for herself.
I feel for that kid 😢 Absolutely terrible what he was pushed to go through. And now as an adult? At one point left completely alone when there‘s nothing more to profit of…Mentally probably still more like a child from the blockers. And sexualized to the core early on. Very very sad! What a desperate situation for him. The only thing he possibly felt valued was his „girl-/womanhood“ while he can‘t function either way, as the sex he‘s born as and even less as the man with artificially feminized looks..And looks only, looks that will only be perceived as „female“ from distance or with a lot of wishful thinking…And all that was sold to him as the „solution“, the only „solution“ for him to have a good life. Just imagine…No wonder some of these men become hateful towards women when their own mothers pushed them through this..together with so called medical professionals. Totally inhumane!!
Asexuality also isn’t normal. The huge increase in this generation is due to SSRIs and all the hormones in our food and water. It also sucks. 🤷♀️ just figured I’d throw that out there. It’s not an “oops, we broke you, but it’s totally fine” type of thing.
If you dig a bit you'll find out that many, maybe even the majority, of those who call themselves asexual, have quite a bit of sex. It's just that it is mostly of the kinky variety, like BDSM and such.
Actually asexuality has been around forever, and no one cares because nearly all asexual people are women who have been told their whole lives that it's normal to not like sex, and to just make yourself get used to it because "men have needs" and you're supposed to get married and have kids anyway. Please stop spreading patriarchal misinformation that victimizes women so men can have their precious sex.
Asexuality today is part of the alphabet salad, an identity. And for the record, you are speaking to a person who has been sex abstinent for almost 20 years, so get off your pathetic "you're patriarchal maids" high horse.
I never claimed that people with very low to non-existent sex drives don't exist, merely that the term "asexual" has been hijacked by the Queerio Identitarian set as one of their inaccurate/reality denying labels.
Actually asexuality has been around forever, and no one cares because nearly all asexual people are women who have been told their whole lives that it's normal to not like sex, and to just make yourself get used to it because "men have needs" and you're supposed to get married and have kids anyway. Please stop spreading patriarchal misinformation that victimizes women so men can have their precious sex.
It's normal for women to have a lower sex drive than men. It's also more common for women to be anorgasmic than for men. That said, we're artificially increasing the number of people who are incapable of finding pleasure in sex, which compromises their ability to form romantic attachments and stable families.
Is it possible to be asexual and/or anorgasmic and have a meaningful life? Of course. Is it a lesser life than it would be with a normal libido and ability to orgasm? Also of course.
Plenty of women love having sex. It also makes it much easier to maintain a close bond with a partner. What you're doing is trying to normalize women not liking sex, which is what actually harms women.
Actually asexuality has been around forever, and no one cares because nearly all asexual people are women who have been told their whole lives that it's normal to not like sex, and to just make yourself get used to it because "men have needs" and you're supposed to get married and have kids anyway. Please stop spreading patriarchal misinformation that victimizes women so men can have their precious sex.
Any idea why tilapia in particular? It feels like that came out of some old twisted insult of comparing the scent of vaginas to fish. They should at least get a choice. Would you like cod, halibut, or sole? Good grief! I'm going loopy, the colo-vag thing always makes me want to hit my head against the desk repeatedly. The only place any minimally reasonable person wants colon skin is in their colon. It's so damn gross, and unfathomably stupid.
It really does seem like that might have been the "inspo" for one or more of these surgeons trying tilapia in this particular context. I haven't heard of any other surgical applications for it, but obviously I'm no surgeon or medical researcher.
It's because tilapia skin is used in an experimental treatment for burn victims. That has nothing to do with men giving women BV with their unwashed penises and then complaining about the smell they created.
Imagine being this boy, growing up, start exploring what the "bigots" are actually saying, and realizing what had been done to him. Or even if he thinks "when I grow up I want to have kids" (like many people do) and learns that has been taken away from him by his crazy mom and doctors. It wouldn't surprise me if he offs himself, or offs/attempts to off his mom or doctors. All the adults involved deserve jail. Possibly the death sentence for the doctors, since without them, mom would have just been told she was nuts and the son would have grown up to be a normal dude (who might have needed therapy for the forced crossdressing because his mom is nuts).
I have to also wonder how many more patients these doctors are seeing who are in similar circumstances, as I doubt this doctor team made their living off of 1 victim. But this "never happens"
And then, of course, instead of taking responsibility for that, his parents will just say it was the lack of trans care that made him delete himself, not their utter failing to protect their child against a fad.
Yeah, I just can't imagine being cognisant of the fact that your own child is being influenced and sexualised by a bunch of much older men online and being okay with medicalising him accordingly. Like, she would surely have to be aware of it because this stuff simply doesn't occur in a vacuum. I guess it's reflective of her own sickness too. MSBP/Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another doesn't seem to me to be addressed anywhere near aggressively enough generally, but "trans" is pretty much the perfect vehicle for it because there are simply no really objective standards of diagnosis and care from what I can discern. The most extreme "remedy" is applied first because the assumption/excuse invoked is the threat of the patient committing suicide, which is pretty sick in and of itself.
8 years ago!! this was circulating 8 years ago! they have known about this for over a decade and yet these sick bastards have been still doing this to kids and are still pushing it now. Jail is too good for them. They have known since they started cutting up the first of them like Jackie Greene and Kim Petras.
As for why the mother of that kid is still involved so heavily and intimately the kids life. It's not just the "transmommy" thing it's because these kids are trapped in a permanent infantile state, they never properly grow up because the brains never mature properly. If she had left the kid alone and just made sure he was counselled through his mental struggles there is every chance he would have grown up to be a settled gay man. Even if his problems persisted and did not resolve sufficiently, as a young adult he would still have had a shot at medical transition and being able to function sexually and thus maintain relationships. I doubt the kid even knows what desire is.
Sex isn't just about pleasure, it's more or less a prerequisite for pair bonding in relationships. That's what these parents are denying their kids, the chance to ever form and maintain a stable relationship for the rest of their lives.
As for the rest of those replies on that bullshit reddit thread I'm going to calm down first because my blood is starting to boil.
Exactly. This is sick almost beyond belief. Flogging in the town square would be too good for those responsible. And almost all of it can probably be chalked up to homophobia at the end of the day, too.
PS: I really don't recommend reading the rest of that Reddit thread, that's sheer masochism.
Karen, I'd have to have something a bit stronger than wine to go looking directly at this stuff myself. 🤢 Fucking complete dissociation. Who the fuck thinks of their body as a meat quilt? 🤮 Clown world, indeed. 🤡 Kudos to you, Terven Queen, as I couldn't face this crap without your expert knowledge, clarity of speech and mind. 🤩❤️🎵
OK eyes down for the next shitfest, those reddit comments!
Stitching in tissues from anywhere else in the body is a recipe for complication and disaster, be it colon, peritoneal or grafted skin. All the grafted tissue in the world isn't going to change the fact that the kids sex organs and prostate never virilised. So it ends up an insensate tube of flesh and the first time they try to use that patchwork quilt it will likely fall to pieces.
Suporn, Chettawut, Ting, McGuinn and Bowers are all straight men, the last two are AGP trannies married to women. They have never had sex with a man in their lives. They have no clue just how vigorous and demanding sex with a man can be on those tissues, so it may as Bowers is fond of saying "look really pretty". but it's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. It seems to me those guys fuck up half the penile skin flap inversion procedures they do!
It could well be that their revision/severe complication rate is actually much higher. Considering the taboo surrounding the discussion of these matters within the "trans" community, I mean.
I don't think it is taboo these days. This lot are all over Reddit etc bleating about the problems they have. Hell half them are on YouTube discussing it, they are just not bothering to research the surgeon or they are hearing the warnings but ignoring them.
So, if this boy commits suicide, the troons will rally around and cry the boy couldn't be who he wanted to be, because of transphobes. Oh the genocide! When in fact, all along, the mother pushed to mutilate her son and she drove him to kill himself, but it will be another poster child on HRC trans tragic deaths!
Yes, yes - the 'phobes simply wouldn't let him "live his truth"! Any suicide that occurs post surgical transition is *totally* down to the disapproval of a finite number of complete strangers rather than the agonising and lonely state of limbo the patient is left in!
The dismissal of this abuse as "Well, some people are just asexual," (same thing they did with Jazz) really scares me because people buy into it so easily. It is used to excuse the most vile sexual abuse, trauma, look past severely autistic people and people with actual health conditions that should be looked into and diagnosed. It's also used as an "eacape" in the "trans" community and people don't seem to realize how tightly they're tied and how porn fueled the "asexual community" is. People wildly underestimate the trauma and sexual abuse kids receive from watching porn, so an aversion to sex is completely understandable in our culture but it *does* need to be explored not simply dismissed as an "identity".
The problem is asexuality is a real thing that has been around forever, and no one cares because nearly all asexual people are women who have been told their whole lives that it's normal to not like sex, and to just make yourself get used to it because "men have needs" and you're supposed to get married and have kids anyway. Please stop spreading patriarchal misinformation that victimizes women so men can have their precious sex.
Sincerely, an actual asexual who is extremely fed up with the fact that troonery has become the latest excuse to tell women who just plain don't want sex that we aren't real.
17:11 The primary issue is the fact that this poor bastard wasn't allowed to go through puberty! That cannot be fixed with the post-hoc addition of various exogenous hormones. Scientists/medicine doesn't even have that great of a grasp on what precisely the endocrine system does during adolescence, and they can't just approximate the subtleties of the developing body even if they actually did! The body is not an automobile, FFS! All the tinkering in the world can't give this poor soul back what's been so cruelly stolen from him.
The goal is to destroy the kid's health, so putting him on yet more drugs would serve that purpose. That's why ALL of this needs to be illegal for kids and adults.
The troons think hormones do it all. Magic wands
They're not entirely wrong. Taken long enough, at a high enough dosage, they'll definitely destroy their bodies, which is the goal of these self-hating loons.
Precisely
Amazing—and not in a good way—this is the insanity embraced by the leadership in the blue states. And the rest of us are the “bigots” for not wanting this medically-facilitated evil to occur. Imagine the dinner table conversation in this wacko family’s household! Also imagine how many lives have been destroyed by the dumbasses on Reddit egging each other on with this madness.
Seriously. Discussing this boy's wank experiences while passing the mashed potatoes. Take me now, Jesus!
Don't forget cadaver skin for neovag. Yep that exists
https://www.ics.org/2019/abstract/241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1QIP1kHaRM
It wasn't already gross enough.
Oh, jeezy creezus! That's true and I'd somehow managed to forget about it. Yikes.
It's tough (and not particularly advisable) to hold all the crazy in our heads
It's really not good for one's mental health to to keep all the aspects of troonery front of mind.
True enough.
People who get allografts (cadaver skin) require immunosuppressant drugs sometimes indefinitely. Those drugs give further complications such as lowering the immune system's ability to function and increased cancer risk. Just what you need when recovering from major surgery.
Some things really just aren't meant to be, and we humans need to accept that.
🤦🏼aye yay yay I have not specifically researched the surgeries these folks are having... cadaver skin? huh. add yet another ghoulish aspect to this ideology of human dysfunction.
Believe me, you will not be able to unsee that if you look it up...........😱
This is why Jesus won't come back.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaack!!! What the hell?! Don't discuss masturbatory habits, your child's, your own, or anyone else's, with your kid!!! I am Karen's age, both my parents have been dead for years, and the mere thought of ever having this sort of discussion with either of them gives me a major case of the heebie-jeebies. It makes me feel nauseous. That is healthy. This mother makes me think we should bring back the pillory so we can all throw rotting tomatoes at her in the public square. Sadly, if her kid does do himself in because of the damage she facilitated, she will likely just use his suicide as another way to garner attention for herself.
I love the pillory idea. LOVE IT! And yes, Mom is a malignant narcissist who'll wear her kid's self-destruction like a crown.
I feel for that kid 😢 Absolutely terrible what he was pushed to go through. And now as an adult? At one point left completely alone when there‘s nothing more to profit of…Mentally probably still more like a child from the blockers. And sexualized to the core early on. Very very sad! What a desperate situation for him. The only thing he possibly felt valued was his „girl-/womanhood“ while he can‘t function either way, as the sex he‘s born as and even less as the man with artificially feminized looks..And looks only, looks that will only be perceived as „female“ from distance or with a lot of wishful thinking…And all that was sold to him as the „solution“, the only „solution“ for him to have a good life. Just imagine…No wonder some of these men become hateful towards women when their own mothers pushed them through this..together with so called medical professionals. Totally inhumane!!
Is there a perversion your teen hasn't tried? Clearly it should be supplied post haste./s
It seems to me that his mother and "doctors" are the perverts in this equation tbqh
Especially since the kid was started on puberty blockers so young as to never develop sensation.
I`m always amazed at the double standard applied to children who fall victim to the trans industry by so-called "gender criticals" especially women.
FtM=traumatized
MtF=pervert (even the puperty blocked).
They are all victims, sex notwithstanding.
Where is the dislike button when one is needed?
Shame. The complete parental failure to parent has robbed this child of a normal adult life.
Asexuality also isn’t normal. The huge increase in this generation is due to SSRIs and all the hormones in our food and water. It also sucks. 🤷♀️ just figured I’d throw that out there. It’s not an “oops, we broke you, but it’s totally fine” type of thing.
If you dig a bit you'll find out that many, maybe even the majority, of those who call themselves asexual, have quite a bit of sex. It's just that it is mostly of the kinky variety, like BDSM and such.
Yeah, it's just another "queer" identity label for many, it would seem.
Actually asexuality has been around forever, and no one cares because nearly all asexual people are women who have been told their whole lives that it's normal to not like sex, and to just make yourself get used to it because "men have needs" and you're supposed to get married and have kids anyway. Please stop spreading patriarchal misinformation that victimizes women so men can have their precious sex.
Sincerely, an actual asexual.
Asexuality today is part of the alphabet salad, an identity. And for the record, you are speaking to a person who has been sex abstinent for almost 20 years, so get off your pathetic "you're patriarchal maids" high horse.
Sincerely, me.
I never claimed that people with very low to non-existent sex drives don't exist, merely that the term "asexual" has been hijacked by the Queerio Identitarian set as one of their inaccurate/reality denying labels.
Also this ASSumption is disgustingly not true.
Actually asexuality has been around forever, and no one cares because nearly all asexual people are women who have been told their whole lives that it's normal to not like sex, and to just make yourself get used to it because "men have needs" and you're supposed to get married and have kids anyway. Please stop spreading patriarchal misinformation that victimizes women so men can have their precious sex.
Sincerely, an actual asexual.
It's normal for women to have a lower sex drive than men. It's also more common for women to be anorgasmic than for men. That said, we're artificially increasing the number of people who are incapable of finding pleasure in sex, which compromises their ability to form romantic attachments and stable families.
Is it possible to be asexual and/or anorgasmic and have a meaningful life? Of course. Is it a lesser life than it would be with a normal libido and ability to orgasm? Also of course.
Plenty of women love having sex. It also makes it much easier to maintain a close bond with a partner. What you're doing is trying to normalize women not liking sex, which is what actually harms women.
But they're sure it's all women's fault. Feminism to be precise. Now, you see, we live in a matriarchy 🙄
Haven't you heard? According to Matt Walsh, feminism is to blame for literally everything. Black people are to blame for everything, too.
I want to see him without that big, black virile beard. Betcha he doesn't have a chin
A little bit of female freedom e-mas-koo-lated them. Not such strong sauce after all is it? 🙄
So I’ve been told by 6’3” men earning $200k a year while their wives work low pay jobs full time and still care for the kids and home 😅
LOL
Actually asexuality has been around forever, and no one cares because nearly all asexual people are women who have been told their whole lives that it's normal to not like sex, and to just make yourself get used to it because "men have needs" and you're supposed to get married and have kids anyway. Please stop spreading patriarchal misinformation that victimizes women so men can have their precious sex.
10:50 I mean, some of these ghoulish surgeons even use grafts of tilapia skin...
Any idea why tilapia in particular? It feels like that came out of some old twisted insult of comparing the scent of vaginas to fish. They should at least get a choice. Would you like cod, halibut, or sole? Good grief! I'm going loopy, the colo-vag thing always makes me want to hit my head against the desk repeatedly. The only place any minimally reasonable person wants colon skin is in their colon. It's so damn gross, and unfathomably stupid.
It really does seem like that might have been the "inspo" for one or more of these surgeons trying tilapia in this particular context. I haven't heard of any other surgical applications for it, but obviously I'm no surgeon or medical researcher.
The stupid is what always amazes me. How, HOW is anyone stupid enough to do this voluntarily? HOW?
It's because tilapia skin is used in an experimental treatment for burn victims. That has nothing to do with men giving women BV with their unwashed penises and then complaining about the smell they created.
Imagine being this boy, growing up, start exploring what the "bigots" are actually saying, and realizing what had been done to him. Or even if he thinks "when I grow up I want to have kids" (like many people do) and learns that has been taken away from him by his crazy mom and doctors. It wouldn't surprise me if he offs himself, or offs/attempts to off his mom or doctors. All the adults involved deserve jail. Possibly the death sentence for the doctors, since without them, mom would have just been told she was nuts and the son would have grown up to be a normal dude (who might have needed therapy for the forced crossdressing because his mom is nuts).
I have to also wonder how many more patients these doctors are seeing who are in similar circumstances, as I doubt this doctor team made their living off of 1 victim. But this "never happens"
And then, of course, instead of taking responsibility for that, his parents will just say it was the lack of trans care that made him delete himself, not their utter failing to protect their child against a fad.
Or they'll blame 'transphobia' instead of putting their kids on sterilizing drugs that destroyed his mental health.
Yeah, I just can't imagine being cognisant of the fact that your own child is being influenced and sexualised by a bunch of much older men online and being okay with medicalising him accordingly. Like, she would surely have to be aware of it because this stuff simply doesn't occur in a vacuum. I guess it's reflective of her own sickness too. MSBP/Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another doesn't seem to me to be addressed anywhere near aggressively enough generally, but "trans" is pretty much the perfect vehicle for it because there are simply no really objective standards of diagnosis and care from what I can discern. The most extreme "remedy" is applied first because the assumption/excuse invoked is the threat of the patient committing suicide, which is pretty sick in and of itself.
What a great out for homophobic parents! HEY! He's not gay, he's trapped in the wrong BOD____AY!
Yup. Troonery is a way for parents to torture their gay kids.
8 years ago!! this was circulating 8 years ago! they have known about this for over a decade and yet these sick bastards have been still doing this to kids and are still pushing it now. Jail is too good for them. They have known since they started cutting up the first of them like Jackie Greene and Kim Petras.
As for why the mother of that kid is still involved so heavily and intimately the kids life. It's not just the "transmommy" thing it's because these kids are trapped in a permanent infantile state, they never properly grow up because the brains never mature properly. If she had left the kid alone and just made sure he was counselled through his mental struggles there is every chance he would have grown up to be a settled gay man. Even if his problems persisted and did not resolve sufficiently, as a young adult he would still have had a shot at medical transition and being able to function sexually and thus maintain relationships. I doubt the kid even knows what desire is.
Sex isn't just about pleasure, it's more or less a prerequisite for pair bonding in relationships. That's what these parents are denying their kids, the chance to ever form and maintain a stable relationship for the rest of their lives.
As for the rest of those replies on that bullshit reddit thread I'm going to calm down first because my blood is starting to boil.
Exactly. This is sick almost beyond belief. Flogging in the town square would be too good for those responsible. And almost all of it can probably be chalked up to homophobia at the end of the day, too.
PS: I really don't recommend reading the rest of that Reddit thread, that's sheer masochism.
Karen, I'd have to have something a bit stronger than wine to go looking directly at this stuff myself. 🤢 Fucking complete dissociation. Who the fuck thinks of their body as a meat quilt? 🤮 Clown world, indeed. 🤡 Kudos to you, Terven Queen, as I couldn't face this crap without your expert knowledge, clarity of speech and mind. 🤩❤️🎵
OK eyes down for the next shitfest, those reddit comments!
Stitching in tissues from anywhere else in the body is a recipe for complication and disaster, be it colon, peritoneal or grafted skin. All the grafted tissue in the world isn't going to change the fact that the kids sex organs and prostate never virilised. So it ends up an insensate tube of flesh and the first time they try to use that patchwork quilt it will likely fall to pieces.
Suporn, Chettawut, Ting, McGuinn and Bowers are all straight men, the last two are AGP trannies married to women. They have never had sex with a man in their lives. They have no clue just how vigorous and demanding sex with a man can be on those tissues, so it may as Bowers is fond of saying "look really pretty". but it's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. It seems to me those guys fuck up half the penile skin flap inversion procedures they do!
It could well be that their revision/severe complication rate is actually much higher. Considering the taboo surrounding the discussion of these matters within the "trans" community, I mean.
I don't think it is taboo these days. This lot are all over Reddit etc bleating about the problems they have. Hell half them are on YouTube discussing it, they are just not bothering to research the surgeon or they are hearing the warnings but ignoring them.
Fair point.
So, if this boy commits suicide, the troons will rally around and cry the boy couldn't be who he wanted to be, because of transphobes. Oh the genocide! When in fact, all along, the mother pushed to mutilate her son and she drove him to kill himself, but it will be another poster child on HRC trans tragic deaths!
Yes, yes - the 'phobes simply wouldn't let him "live his truth"! Any suicide that occurs post surgical transition is *totally* down to the disapproval of a finite number of complete strangers rather than the agonising and lonely state of limbo the patient is left in!
Surely that's obvious to everyone here? /s
The dismissal of this abuse as "Well, some people are just asexual," (same thing they did with Jazz) really scares me because people buy into it so easily. It is used to excuse the most vile sexual abuse, trauma, look past severely autistic people and people with actual health conditions that should be looked into and diagnosed. It's also used as an "eacape" in the "trans" community and people don't seem to realize how tightly they're tied and how porn fueled the "asexual community" is. People wildly underestimate the trauma and sexual abuse kids receive from watching porn, so an aversion to sex is completely understandable in our culture but it *does* need to be explored not simply dismissed as an "identity".
The problem is asexuality is a real thing that has been around forever, and no one cares because nearly all asexual people are women who have been told their whole lives that it's normal to not like sex, and to just make yourself get used to it because "men have needs" and you're supposed to get married and have kids anyway. Please stop spreading patriarchal misinformation that victimizes women so men can have their precious sex.
Sincerely, an actual asexual who is extremely fed up with the fact that troonery has become the latest excuse to tell women who just plain don't want sex that we aren't real.
Absolutely right. It's just so grim, even though fairly obvious to anyone who stops to actually think about it.