Hayton isn't the only one; there's another in Britain, dressed like a granny, all pearls and twin-set, but with uterine implants for men as his day-dream. The more sheepish the sheep's clothing, the deadlier the wolf. Manipulators use the good cop, bad cop formula; or the Jekyll and Hyde personalities, to confuse us and thus get their own way. It's gaslighting with a sugared coat, and I won't fall for it; nothing new under the sun.
These men are all megalomaniacs, but some have elevated themselves even higher above us mere mortals than the rest, by proclaiming themselves to be a voice of sanity amid the madness. and these are the worst of the lot, oozing hypocrisy. The BBC's Radio 4 interviewed three people a while back on the subject of men invading women's sports, and all three were men, one of whom was Hayton, condemning it as a woman would do, had they bothered to ask one, yet whilst wearing woman-face. There are plenty of us here in Britain who find him insufferable.
Please tell me that the radio interview in question wasn't on "Women's Hour"?! I wouldn't be dreadfully surprised given everything I've heard but it would rather take the cake...
Also, could you please give me a clue as to the identity of the twinset and pearls wearer? Pretty please!
Wasn't it BBC Radio 4's The Moral Maze? This was on the same day as the infamous Women's Hour interview - which took place just prior to the Olympics last year during the Laurel Hubbard scandal - with TW, Dr Joanna Harper. He is the person who conducted an extremely flawed testosterone lowering study on 8 self selected trans women, none of whom were elite sports people, but which study managed to convince the IOC to change the rules on trans inclusion. Dr Emma Hilton (known as FondOfBeetles on Twitter and an expert in the field of women/biology/sport) had been on standby for the BBC producers of that Women's Hour interview, but they never phoned her back.
Later that day, the BBC then ran the Moral Maze programme. The format is that they have a regular panel and then guest "witnesses" to be interviewed by the panel on the topic at hand and give evidence for their side in the argument. Again, no female expert witnesses appeared to represent the GC side, no sportswomen like Sharron Davies or sport doctors like Dr Emma Hilton. No. They had Hayton, a physics teacher, on as the "GC" witness and the witness for the pro trans side was, once again, TW Dr Joanna Harper. Debbie Hayton is not a sports person, biologist, endocrinologist or anything resembling an expert in the realm of sport and sport science, but seems to regularly enjoy taking these media gigs from knowledgeable females. The other "witness" was a man. From recall, the only actual females on the Moral Maze that evening were 2/4 panel members Melanie Philips (pro women, but who reigned herself in, probably to stop herself being cancelled) and Ask Sarkar, a professional lefty shit stirrer who hates other women, who also hates sport, and who was happy to throw sportswomen under the Olympic bus that evening. But as neither of those latter two were there as expert witnesses, the listener was more or less left with men discussing women's sport.
Since typing the above, I've looked back at my own records of that episode and Hayton did in fact admonish the Moral Maze host about not having a female "witness" on. But that's the head-fuck that is Hayton. If he had not accepted the gig, the BBC would have had to have got a different GC witness on, and more likely than not, that witness would have been a woman.
That was it; well remembered! Then we have H Belcher and H Peto in politics, and K Harrison, a whole gaggle of agp's 'identifying' as respectable, here in 'Terf Island', but Hayton seems to get the most publicity.
LOL he is such a hypocrite. Gives them shit for not having a woman on but at the same time, takes a spot that could have gone to a woman. When the phoned him to come on he could have walked the walk instead of just talking the talk by saying “I’m sorry, I’m not qualified to speak on this issue, why don’t you phone [woman who knows what she’s talking about]? She is more knowledgable and I would feel uncomfortable taking a spot away from a woman on a discussion about women’s rights.”
Isn't Jane Fae the one that knits during interviews? I always think he's pretending he's one of the woman who that sat there knitting during the French Revolution beheadings - one of the Tricoteuses.
Hi, Lida! No, it wasn't on Woman's Hour, it was one evening, could have been on a programme called Front Row. J o h n O z i m e k, who calls himself Jane F a y e, is the womb-wisher.
I tried to copy something that I found on my travels this evening to your Community tab/page to no avail, but I'd really like to share it so I hope you don't mind me trying here. Thanks! 🙏🤞
1984
“Do you remember,” [O'Brien] went on, “writing in your diary, ‘Freedom is the freedom to say that penises are male sexual organs?”
“Yes,” said Winston.
O’Brien held up his left hand towards Winston, and pointed at his crotch.
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Male.”
“And if trans activists say that penises aren’t male but female — what are they?”
“Male.”
The word ended in a gasp of pain. The needle of the dial had shot up to fifty-five. The sweat had sprung out all over Winston’s body. The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop. O’Brien watched him. He drew back the lever. This time the pain was only slightly eased.
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Male.”
The needle went up to sixty.
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Male! Male! What else can I say? Male!”
The needle must have risen again, but he did not look at it. The heavy, stern face and hallucinations of biology books filled his vision. A male sexual organ appeared before his inner eye like an urechis unicinctus, weird, blurry, and seeming to vibrate, but unmistakably male.
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Male! Stop it, stop it! How can you go on? Male! Male!”
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Female! Female! Female!”
“No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think they are male organs. What are penises, please?”
“Male! Female! Male! Anything you like. Only stop it, stop harassing me!”
Abruptly he was sitting up with O’Brien’s arm round his shoulders. He had perhaps lost consciousness for a few seconds. The bonds that had held his body down were loosened. He felt very cold, he was shaking uncontrollably, his teeth were chattering, the tears were rolling down his cheeks. For a moment he clung to O’Brien like a baby, curiously comforted by the heavy arm round his shoulders. He had the feeling that the trans activist was his protector, that the pain was something that came from outside, from some other source, and that it was O’Brien who would save him from it.
“You are a slow learner, Winston,” said O’Brien gently.
“How can I help it?” he blubbered. “How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Penises are male.”
“Sometimes, Winston, sometimes they are female. Sometimes sexual dimorphism doesn’t exist. Sometimes they are just a feeling. You must try harder. It is not easy to become a submissive supporter of identity politics.”
In some ways I find men like Hayton worse than your garden variety AGPs who INSIST they are women.
Not only is he making a mockery of women by aping our societally imposed beauty standards, he is laughing at us all the way to the bank as we laud him and reward him for making the most minor statement of fact “I am a man” by allowing him to speak for us as feminist events, use our spaces and turn a blind eye to him parading his fetish in front of his students.
At least the Morgane Oger’s of the world are open about their hatred of women.
Hayton isn't the only one; there's another in Britain, dressed like a granny, all pearls and twin-set, but with uterine implants for men as his day-dream. The more sheepish the sheep's clothing, the deadlier the wolf. Manipulators use the good cop, bad cop formula; or the Jekyll and Hyde personalities, to confuse us and thus get their own way. It's gaslighting with a sugared coat, and I won't fall for it; nothing new under the sun.
These men are all megalomaniacs, but some have elevated themselves even higher above us mere mortals than the rest, by proclaiming themselves to be a voice of sanity amid the madness. and these are the worst of the lot, oozing hypocrisy. The BBC's Radio 4 interviewed three people a while back on the subject of men invading women's sports, and all three were men, one of whom was Hayton, condemning it as a woman would do, had they bothered to ask one, yet whilst wearing woman-face. There are plenty of us here in Britain who find him insufferable.
Who's the other one? Is it Yardley? It can't be Willoughby. Is it Orlander?
Please tell me that the radio interview in question wasn't on "Women's Hour"?! I wouldn't be dreadfully surprised given everything I've heard but it would rather take the cake...
Also, could you please give me a clue as to the identity of the twinset and pearls wearer? Pretty please!
Wasn't it BBC Radio 4's The Moral Maze? This was on the same day as the infamous Women's Hour interview - which took place just prior to the Olympics last year during the Laurel Hubbard scandal - with TW, Dr Joanna Harper. He is the person who conducted an extremely flawed testosterone lowering study on 8 self selected trans women, none of whom were elite sports people, but which study managed to convince the IOC to change the rules on trans inclusion. Dr Emma Hilton (known as FondOfBeetles on Twitter and an expert in the field of women/biology/sport) had been on standby for the BBC producers of that Women's Hour interview, but they never phoned her back.
Later that day, the BBC then ran the Moral Maze programme. The format is that they have a regular panel and then guest "witnesses" to be interviewed by the panel on the topic at hand and give evidence for their side in the argument. Again, no female expert witnesses appeared to represent the GC side, no sportswomen like Sharron Davies or sport doctors like Dr Emma Hilton. No. They had Hayton, a physics teacher, on as the "GC" witness and the witness for the pro trans side was, once again, TW Dr Joanna Harper. Debbie Hayton is not a sports person, biologist, endocrinologist or anything resembling an expert in the realm of sport and sport science, but seems to regularly enjoy taking these media gigs from knowledgeable females. The other "witness" was a man. From recall, the only actual females on the Moral Maze that evening were 2/4 panel members Melanie Philips (pro women, but who reigned herself in, probably to stop herself being cancelled) and Ask Sarkar, a professional lefty shit stirrer who hates other women, who also hates sport, and who was happy to throw sportswomen under the Olympic bus that evening. But as neither of those latter two were there as expert witnesses, the listener was more or less left with men discussing women's sport.
Since typing the above, I've looked back at my own records of that episode and Hayton did in fact admonish the Moral Maze host about not having a female "witness" on. But that's the head-fuck that is Hayton. If he had not accepted the gig, the BBC would have had to have got a different GC witness on, and more likely than not, that witness would have been a woman.
That was it; well remembered! Then we have H Belcher and H Peto in politics, and K Harrison, a whole gaggle of agp's 'identifying' as respectable, here in 'Terf Island', but Hayton seems to get the most publicity.
LOL he is such a hypocrite. Gives them shit for not having a woman on but at the same time, takes a spot that could have gone to a woman. When the phoned him to come on he could have walked the walk instead of just talking the talk by saying “I’m sorry, I’m not qualified to speak on this issue, why don’t you phone [woman who knows what she’s talking about]? She is more knowledgable and I would feel uncomfortable taking a spot away from a woman on a discussion about women’s rights.”
Whoops, I meant Jane F a e. Look him up and you'll see him being called a 'feminist' as well as a 'she'. It's grim; the BBC lauded him.
Isn't Jane Fae the one that knits during interviews? I always think he's pretending he's one of the woman who that sat there knitting during the French Revolution beheadings - one of the Tricoteuses.
Like Jimmy Saville with the cigar and the infamous banana interview?
Hi, Lida! No, it wasn't on Woman's Hour, it was one evening, could have been on a programme called Front Row. J o h n O z i m e k, who calls himself Jane F a y e, is the womb-wisher.
Oh, that tracks...
Thank you. x
Heya Karen,
I tried to copy something that I found on my travels this evening to your Community tab/page to no avail, but I'd really like to share it so I hope you don't mind me trying here. Thanks! 🙏🤞
1984
“Do you remember,” [O'Brien] went on, “writing in your diary, ‘Freedom is the freedom to say that penises are male sexual organs?”
“Yes,” said Winston.
O’Brien held up his left hand towards Winston, and pointed at his crotch.
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Male.”
“And if trans activists say that penises aren’t male but female — what are they?”
“Male.”
The word ended in a gasp of pain. The needle of the dial had shot up to fifty-five. The sweat had sprung out all over Winston’s body. The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop. O’Brien watched him. He drew back the lever. This time the pain was only slightly eased.
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Male.”
The needle went up to sixty.
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Male! Male! What else can I say? Male!”
The needle must have risen again, but he did not look at it. The heavy, stern face and hallucinations of biology books filled his vision. A male sexual organ appeared before his inner eye like an urechis unicinctus, weird, blurry, and seeming to vibrate, but unmistakably male.
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Male! Stop it, stop it! How can you go on? Male! Male!”
“What are penises, Winston?”
“Female! Female! Female!”
“No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think they are male organs. What are penises, please?”
“Male! Female! Male! Anything you like. Only stop it, stop harassing me!”
Abruptly he was sitting up with O’Brien’s arm round his shoulders. He had perhaps lost consciousness for a few seconds. The bonds that had held his body down were loosened. He felt very cold, he was shaking uncontrollably, his teeth were chattering, the tears were rolling down his cheeks. For a moment he clung to O’Brien like a baby, curiously comforted by the heavy arm round his shoulders. He had the feeling that the trans activist was his protector, that the pain was something that came from outside, from some other source, and that it was O’Brien who would save him from it.
“You are a slow learner, Winston,” said O’Brien gently.
“How can I help it?” he blubbered. “How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Penises are male.”
“Sometimes, Winston, sometimes they are female. Sometimes sexual dimorphism doesn’t exist. Sometimes they are just a feeling. You must try harder. It is not easy to become a submissive supporter of identity politics.”
Excellent! Maybe this is what happened to the tru-trans fems.
Yeah, maybe...
In some ways I find men like Hayton worse than your garden variety AGPs who INSIST they are women.
Not only is he making a mockery of women by aping our societally imposed beauty standards, he is laughing at us all the way to the bank as we laud him and reward him for making the most minor statement of fact “I am a man” by allowing him to speak for us as feminist events, use our spaces and turn a blind eye to him parading his fetish in front of his students.
At least the Morgane Oger’s of the world are open about their hatred of women.
Oger is more open. I think a lot of women are desperate for men's support on this issue, and will take it even if 95% of it is crap.
Spot on.
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