I mean, I agree that "trans" is a neo-religion of sorts, and it's certainly based upon a metaphysical belief system - but they really don't deserve any accommodations beyond perhaps the offer of "third spaces", which have already been rejected out of hand by them in any case. IMO anyway...
To compare the authoritarian cultic belief system that "trans" seeks to impose on all of us regardless to major world religions is incredibly insulting - to the religious at any rate.
Agree it is a neo-religion of sorts, except I can generally see some good in most religions , and see nothing positive in the trans malarkey. Think the third spaces notion is dangerous. It legitimizes the notion there are is something other than male and female. It affirms delusions. If it is a general third space for a variety of situations then it is probably a great idea though. It would have been such a relief to have that option when my father had dementia. Hated seeing that lost look on his face when he went into and came out of a public restroom. Wish I could have gone in with him and talked to him through the stall door.
Here is the religion of "trans" formed by the Illustrious Rothblatt. The name Terasem comes from the Greek word for “Earthseed,” which is also the name for the futuristic religion found in the Octavia Butler sci-fi novel Parable of the Sower that helped inspire Gabriel’s parents, Bina and Martine Rothblatt, to start their new faith. Martine founded the successful satellite radio company Sirius XM in 1990. (Martine was originally known as Martin.
It's been clear to me for awhile that trans was set up along the same lines early Christianity was, top down enforcement and eventually people were killed if they didn't toe the line. You couldn't be an atheist in Medieval times...or, you kept it to yourself. I see Dark Ages written all over this push, esp in the rewriting of history
He also owns a company that provides satellite phone services to the US military and Intelligence industries. He owns a xenotransplant company (United Therapeutics) - genetically modified pig hearts and kidneys. He believes "death is optional" and that transgenderism is a step towards Transhumanism.
I believe he is one of the most dangerous men on the planet. Aside for his work in the medical and technical fields, he was responsible for the international hate crime law that is putting women through police investigation and tribunals in Europe. Mostly women are being impacted by these laws and any who attempt to speak are violently threatened online and during events with rape and murder threats. This is fascism and must be stopped immediately. He is also worshiped by other wealthy powerful porn sick CEO's around the globe for his "genius talent" regarding inventions, medical cures and law. He uses intersectionality to silence dissenters as racist, homophobic and "transphobic". See his sick twisted manifesto "From Transgender to Transhuman". Expose this despicable man pass it on! He bankrolls both Republican and Democratic political operatives, although when the Trump administration threw them out of the military, he moved all his money to the Democratic Party. He also identifies as a lesbian is married to an African American woman and has fathered a few children. One whose life he saved with his medical discovery. He promises eternal life on earth to his followers.
100% correct - he is an twisted man pursuing an evil agenda, shaping governments, laws & our lives with his money (he's one of the richest men on the planet).
They have that public face and it's a farce. Their main goal (IMHO) is to sell that idea to the public for palatability while they continue to promote transition for kids. - but only those who are 'true trans' ffs. The tide IS turning - but we may have to surf out the rest of this tidal wave before sanity returns!
I'm guessing because she and Maya Forstater won Maya's case on the right to not believe in gender identity as a protected belief, is why she's pushing this, but she's barking up the wrong tree and being quite authoritarian about it, too.
Yup. This is indeed authoritarian propaganda, aiming at making people feel righteous for believing in bullshit. Joyce is also speaking at the Genspect conference in September, so she has to float the party line.
We don't actually have to accommodate anyone's religious beliefs. I'm not sure where Helen is going with this one. Agp men want to compel our speech and share our spaces. I don't think anyone's speech should be compelled and AGP men need separate spaces. Female only spaces need to be protected in law.
I lost all respect for Helen Joyce after her comments about the 'pronoun police'. She was referring to women and terfs who refuse to be kind and accomodate larpers. I wish I could find the video. It was a panel discussion somehow connected to (surprise, surprise) the last Genspect conference.
Orthodox Jews, and most Muslims do NOT require *my* thoughts, actions, diet, etc. to adhere to their rules.
JWs don't take blood transfusions away from other people. In fact, the State has won cases to give blood transfusions for children. Adults are able to refuse, but children are protected.
My religious beliefs pertain to Me and my family. I don't demand that other people believe in my religion.
I accommodate them by not screaming 'Jesus Fucking Christ.What the FUCK do you look like'? every time I see one of them teetering along in a micro skirt and stilettos.
People who do not 'identify as trans' and support it believe in it like other people believe in a religion or a cult. People who 'identify as trans' are first and foremost mentally ill and need therapeutic intervention. NOT accommodation. As a civilized secular society we reject the mutilation of healthy humans (such as FGM) and we wiil not make 'accommodations' but prohibit it. Third spaces in my opinion can be suggested but I see it mainly as a tool to expose the truth (to those who are still naive about this whole issue and that's the majority) namely that 'people who identify as trans' are not interested in third spaces and that it's not us who are being authoritarians.
Can I say something? Russia banned these operations last year. What does that tells you about the Russian government? Yup, they don't want more mentally ill people via "trans medicine". Serbia (where I live) didn't because our government is the American bitch for about last 25 years since they regime changed us. This is why the "nationalists" and the "right wingers" have more in common on the questions of sexual liberalism that hurts women and children the most, with the feminist leftist women like me.
I wish more of you in the west can see that you're not getting rid of trans ideology without dismantling the power of the corporate representatives in your own governments.
Hi there! My ex bro-in-law is Serb.... Yes, our gov't is becoming Fascist and we don't/can't/won't see it because our country has grown soft and fat and unwilling to do the difficult/painful work needed to cut out the cancer of our modern politics. China will have us for breakfast and broadcast our demise on Tik-Tok.....
What do you mean the biggest growing economy and population is going to try to dominate you and not be imperial? Serbia is not a Chinese but an American slave. Dominate! You are fed propaganda I think.
Julie Bindel came out against Hayton today. She ate crow, apologised and went after him in a substack article (and in a DM on X - but she didn't share the content of the message). I wonder how long before the rest of the GC scholars/hypcrites join the "nasty, inflexible, ultra terf extremists"? LOL!
These broads irritate me so much. They engage in all manner of linguistic and intellectual chicanery to avoid offending these hateful cross-dressing, misogynist clowns only to get their asses handed to them anyway by the same people they were trying to be 'nice' to.
What accommodations does society give up to Orthodox Jews, Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses ??
.. well, Liberal School Systems have removed traditions of birthdays, Halloween parties & dress up, etc .. is she saying to remove liberties & long (since time began) held practices of separating sexes .. i think so! look at the Title IX revision.
those same religious people also are openly hostile towards others who do NOT practice their Faith. just like Troons!
screw that Joyce lady. i dare her to "accommodate" Muslims. Ha!
Some have, some haven't. The schools that I'm affiliated with have all of those things. The tendency now is toward celebrating EVERY holiday of EVERY religious group or at least acknowledging it. It's certainly not a matter of Federal Law that school districts can't celebrate Christmas because it'll 'offend' Jews and Muslims. It is, however, Federal law that men who pretend to be women MUST be allowed into homeless shelters that get federal funding. The school kids might not be able to celebrate Christmas in public school but they can at home, at church, etc.
She did write a book a couple years ago, "Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality". Luckily, there are women that aren't AGP sympathizers that have written books too (e.g. Kara Dansky).
It's called a smirk. It's a look that people get when they think they're better than you. He's a condescending prick with a smirk on his face (and probably something up his ass too).
Once again, another dingbat handmaiden selling us down the river for woke points. To these girlies, stop taking my rights and giving them away to sexual perverts! You want to date a male in dress, that's on you. You want to compete against a male all by yourself, that's one you. You want to share a cell with a male, that's on you! The rest of women population, don't! So, bow down to your gender pretender male altar and suck some boy frank, that's on you, but we don't believe in your cult or your belief that we should be kind and accommodating to males in dresses!
I mean, I agree that "trans" is a neo-religion of sorts, and it's certainly based upon a metaphysical belief system - but they really don't deserve any accommodations beyond perhaps the offer of "third spaces", which have already been rejected out of hand by them in any case. IMO anyway...
To compare the authoritarian cultic belief system that "trans" seeks to impose on all of us regardless to major world religions is incredibly insulting - to the religious at any rate.
It's insulting to everyone with a functioning brain.
Glad you're back.
Agree it is a neo-religion of sorts, except I can generally see some good in most religions , and see nothing positive in the trans malarkey. Think the third spaces notion is dangerous. It legitimizes the notion there are is something other than male and female. It affirms delusions. If it is a general third space for a variety of situations then it is probably a great idea though. It would have been such a relief to have that option when my father had dementia. Hated seeing that lost look on his face when he went into and came out of a public restroom. Wish I could have gone in with him and talked to him through the stall door.
I was worried that you might have banned from YT for rational terfery.
Not yet. They might yank me for good on May 23 when the strike period ends. They did that last time. Fingers crossed that they won't.
If you go missing from YT we will find you here!
Not quite yet! It's probably only a matter of time now that I'm back in the Land of the Living, though...
YouTube only seems to be listing evermore "hate facts", doesn't it?
Lida!!!! I am so happy to see you again.
Thanks!
💯
Transgenderism is ideology not a religion. It's wildy influenced by Christinity not by any other culture, but a Christian culture.
Religion is Ideology. Patriarchy is Ideology is Religion.
It's a freaking cult - and it's the NEW STATE RELIGION ffs whatever happened to separation of CULT and state?
Here is the religion of "trans" formed by the Illustrious Rothblatt. The name Terasem comes from the Greek word for “Earthseed,” which is also the name for the futuristic religion found in the Octavia Butler sci-fi novel Parable of the Sower that helped inspire Gabriel’s parents, Bina and Martine Rothblatt, to start their new faith. Martine founded the successful satellite radio company Sirius XM in 1990. (Martine was originally known as Martin.
It's been clear to me for awhile that trans was set up along the same lines early Christianity was, top down enforcement and eventually people were killed if they didn't toe the line. You couldn't be an atheist in Medieval times...or, you kept it to yourself. I see Dark Ages written all over this push, esp in the rewriting of history
He also owns a company that provides satellite phone services to the US military and Intelligence industries. He owns a xenotransplant company (United Therapeutics) - genetically modified pig hearts and kidneys. He believes "death is optional" and that transgenderism is a step towards Transhumanism.
Won't he be surprised then..... Will laugh all the way to spit on his grave!
oh, shit. more bloodthirsty Landowners & creepy Luciferians. Good Grief.
old money. old power.
Rothblatt also made a HUGE pharmaceutical fortune - go figure!
I believe he is one of the most dangerous men on the planet. Aside for his work in the medical and technical fields, he was responsible for the international hate crime law that is putting women through police investigation and tribunals in Europe. Mostly women are being impacted by these laws and any who attempt to speak are violently threatened online and during events with rape and murder threats. This is fascism and must be stopped immediately. He is also worshiped by other wealthy powerful porn sick CEO's around the globe for his "genius talent" regarding inventions, medical cures and law. He uses intersectionality to silence dissenters as racist, homophobic and "transphobic". See his sick twisted manifesto "From Transgender to Transhuman". Expose this despicable man pass it on! He bankrolls both Republican and Democratic political operatives, although when the Trump administration threw them out of the military, he moved all his money to the Democratic Party. He also identifies as a lesbian is married to an African American woman and has fathered a few children. One whose life he saved with his medical discovery. He promises eternal life on earth to his followers.
100% correct - he is an twisted man pursuing an evil agenda, shaping governments, laws & our lives with his money (he's one of the richest men on the planet).
Wow! Just, wow. What a way to go Helen Joyce, throwing women and girls under the bus. Did she get a pay off to spew this pervert pandering nonsense?
She's speaking at the Genspect conference in September. It wouldn't do to piss off your bosses this close to the big event.
…. I thought Genspect was terf territory? Wtf is going on? I thought the tide was turning on this shit
They have that public face and it's a farce. Their main goal (IMHO) is to sell that idea to the public for palatability while they continue to promote transition for kids. - but only those who are 'true trans' ffs. The tide IS turning - but we may have to surf out the rest of this tidal wave before sanity returns!
…. So I’ve been getting bamboozled all this time?? And I think we may have to “terf” out rest of this tidal wave 😏
I'm in Oklahoma terfing out right now! KJK was on fire (as usual) with a bunch of American terfs - what a great day!!!
I'm guessing because she and Maya Forstater won Maya's case on the right to not believe in gender identity as a protected belief, is why she's pushing this, but she's barking up the wrong tree and being quite authoritarian about it, too.
Yup. This is indeed authoritarian propaganda, aiming at making people feel righteous for believing in bullshit. Joyce is also speaking at the Genspect conference in September, so she has to float the party line.
Authoritarian!
Fascist.
We don't actually have to accommodate anyone's religious beliefs. I'm not sure where Helen is going with this one. Agp men want to compel our speech and share our spaces. I don't think anyone's speech should be compelled and AGP men need separate spaces. Female only spaces need to be protected in law.
She doesn't know where she's going with it either.
I lost all respect for Helen Joyce after her comments about the 'pronoun police'. She was referring to women and terfs who refuse to be kind and accomodate larpers. I wish I could find the video. It was a panel discussion somehow connected to (surprise, surprise) the last Genspect conference.
Yup. Got no use for her after that.
https://youtu.be/PngSd2Yrt2g?si=X2-cwSkuGmD1Edu9
Rex Landy reposted it yesterday with her commentary, which was hilarious as usual!
Gotta love that Rexy!
Orthodox Jews, and most Muslims do NOT require *my* thoughts, actions, diet, etc. to adhere to their rules.
JWs don't take blood transfusions away from other people. In fact, the State has won cases to give blood transfusions for children. Adults are able to refuse, but children are protected.
My religious beliefs pertain to Me and my family. I don't demand that other people believe in my religion.
Exactly.
Couldn't have said it better myself 👍
I accommodate them by not screaming 'Jesus Fucking Christ.What the FUCK do you look like'? every time I see one of them teetering along in a micro skirt and stilettos.
Same. I don't sneer 'you absolute degenerate fool' at the men with 40 pounds of poorly applied make-up on. That's as far as I'm willing to go.
I like your style!
People who do not 'identify as trans' and support it believe in it like other people believe in a religion or a cult. People who 'identify as trans' are first and foremost mentally ill and need therapeutic intervention. NOT accommodation. As a civilized secular society we reject the mutilation of healthy humans (such as FGM) and we wiil not make 'accommodations' but prohibit it. Third spaces in my opinion can be suggested but I see it mainly as a tool to expose the truth (to those who are still naive about this whole issue and that's the majority) namely that 'people who identify as trans' are not interested in third spaces and that it's not us who are being authoritarians.
Can I say something? Russia banned these operations last year. What does that tells you about the Russian government? Yup, they don't want more mentally ill people via "trans medicine". Serbia (where I live) didn't because our government is the American bitch for about last 25 years since they regime changed us. This is why the "nationalists" and the "right wingers" have more in common on the questions of sexual liberalism that hurts women and children the most, with the feminist leftist women like me.
I wish more of you in the west can see that you're not getting rid of trans ideology without dismantling the power of the corporate representatives in your own governments.
Hi there! My ex bro-in-law is Serb.... Yes, our gov't is becoming Fascist and we don't/can't/won't see it because our country has grown soft and fat and unwilling to do the difficult/painful work needed to cut out the cancer of our modern politics. China will have us for breakfast and broadcast our demise on Tik-Tok.....
Chins is not an imperial nation.
You don't need to be an imperial nation to seek world domination
What do you mean the biggest growing economy and population is going to try to dominate you and not be imperial? Serbia is not a Chinese but an American slave. Dominate! You are fed propaganda I think.
And you are contradicting your own previous statement.
Julie Bindel came out against Hayton today. She ate crow, apologised and went after him in a substack article (and in a DM on X - but she didn't share the content of the message). I wonder how long before the rest of the GC scholars/hypcrites join the "nasty, inflexible, ultra terf extremists"? LOL!
These broads irritate me so much. They engage in all manner of linguistic and intellectual chicanery to avoid offending these hateful cross-dressing, misogynist clowns only to get their asses handed to them anyway by the same people they were trying to be 'nice' to.
Where did she "apologize" can you quote me this apology?
On Substack. Saw it but I'm on my phone.
Ignore this guy - he's a troll.
I don't see this as "apology" https://open.substack.com/pub/juliebindel/p/the-absolute-neck-of-debbie-hayton
She is "Debbie washing" herself in public and have not one word of apologies to the number of women who figured the fetishists years ago.
Also, apology to WHO exactly?
I don't think you're reading her correctly.
Maybe more like "cover your ass" than "apology?"
She is terrible. I saw her behavior well over the 10 years I observed this via social media.
"Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion"
I don't believe in a gender identity (soul/spirit).
Compelled speech is also unconstitutional. Forcing someone to call an AGP a "she" is like forcing someone to say "Amen."
Under the New State Religion, we'll be forced to say All-men (can identify as women)....
What accommodations does society give up to Orthodox Jews, Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses ??
.. well, Liberal School Systems have removed traditions of birthdays, Halloween parties & dress up, etc .. is she saying to remove liberties & long (since time began) held practices of separating sexes .. i think so! look at the Title IX revision.
those same religious people also are openly hostile towards others who do NOT practice their Faith. just like Troons!
screw that Joyce lady. i dare her to "accommodate" Muslims. Ha!
Some have, some haven't. The schools that I'm affiliated with have all of those things. The tendency now is toward celebrating EVERY holiday of EVERY religious group or at least acknowledging it. It's certainly not a matter of Federal Law that school districts can't celebrate Christmas because it'll 'offend' Jews and Muslims. It is, however, Federal law that men who pretend to be women MUST be allowed into homeless shelters that get federal funding. The school kids might not be able to celebrate Christmas in public school but they can at home, at church, etc.
…. What!?!? I thought she was always against this nonsense?? Didn’t she write a book? From something to something
She's part of the Genspect cabal - speaking at their conference in September - so expect more bullshit like this from her.
Billy Idol (White Wedding): There is nothing pure in this world. [crying emoji]
She did write a book a couple years ago, "Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality". Luckily, there are women that aren't AGP sympathizers that have written books too (e.g. Kara Dansky).
OHHHH I see, thanks
So disappointing!! 😱
I watched a good video of her today up against David Hayton. But she ain't no ultra!
I'll be demolishing that crap tomorrow.
Please make a comment on the absolutely shite grimase that bloke has on his face constantly. I keep thinking about his anus. Seriously.
It's called a smirk. It's a look that people get when they think they're better than you. He's a condescending prick with a smirk on his face (and probably something up his ass too).
It's not a smirk it's a distorted face. Which one get because when they are toxic with their emotions.
I can't watch anything with him in!
Yeah he's bloody awful. The interviewer starts off by calling him "she" too.
Once again, another dingbat handmaiden selling us down the river for woke points. To these girlies, stop taking my rights and giving them away to sexual perverts! You want to date a male in dress, that's on you. You want to compete against a male all by yourself, that's one you. You want to share a cell with a male, that's on you! The rest of women population, don't! So, bow down to your gender pretender male altar and suck some boy frank, that's on you, but we don't believe in your cult or your belief that we should be kind and accommodating to males in dresses!
Being kind is how we got here in the first place. They've weaponized women's empathy against us. Time for some full-on fuck-all war on this shit!