This man is a dumbass. Ppl who claim they have had gEnDeR dYsPhOriA since childhood likely just had parents who were into extremely strict, toxic gender roles
And what in the fuck is he talking about, plenty of ppl who have diseases know less about their disease than say, a doctor who specializes in that particular disease. Case in point: cancer. The average Jane who gets cancer knows less about it than an oncologist who has been working for 30 years and never had cancer before
Sorry to bother you but the average person who has a disease is looking to save their life at that point. So I'm pretty sure they'd start reading research to help them find a cure. But my point was is that a oncologist who has never had cancer doesn't know what it is like to have cancer. Flat out and will never know that experience. Secondly yeah people who have GD have GD regardless of the reasons for it..
Feelings don't matter when it comes to getting the best care. I don't care if the doctor necessarily knows EXACTLY how I feel, I'm more concerned that she is highly knowledgeable, professionally licensed, has X number of years of experience, and has basic empathy.
Empathy is what is needed in good healthcare professionals - they don't need to know exactly literally what it's like to have every disease 🙄
Deakins quote 10 years experience as some kind of yardstick by which qualification is to be measured! If that is correct then Dr P XX quotes 30 years experience. Surely that trumps Deakins?
I read the Dr P article and it is a fair and accurate assessment of the social contagion phenomenon which has cause the current epidemic in what Deakins and the like describe a GD. The trouble is that they both start from the same false premise, that the DSM is a accurate descriptor of the symptoms of GD. It is not.
Dr P is absolutely correct the DSM V listing of GD is nonsense as was DSM IV and DSM III all the way back to 1980. Dr P is correct a bunch of psychologists and psychiatrists simply listed a bunch of characteristics that a disparate group of people shared to some degree or another and held them to be symptoms of the same condition. Utter shite!
Gender Identity does not exist, if it does I certainly do not have one of which I am aware.
Good for you. You dont have a GD. Then why do you care if someone else does? It's none of your business. Dr P can speculate all they want to. It doesn't matter. It doesn't change things. And what you describe as a bunch of characteristics that people share is exactly how a DSM committee works along with looking at the pertinent research.
The DSM V is a bunch of cobbled together nonsense. You could apply all the so called indicators listed therein to just about half the gay and lesbian people I have ever know at one time or another in there lives.
And I did not say "I don't have GD" . I very much do experience GD I said I don't have have a "Gender Identity". The whole concept is a canard!
I said nothing of the kind! I said they exhibit the behaviours listed in the DSM V. I thought according to your "Community" that is not a metal disorder!
“Likely since birth” LOL. Spoken by someone who’s never interacted with a baby. Newborns can barely see, let alone distinguish between male and female. The fact that they suggest TODDLERS and BABIES can have gender dysphoria is actually insane.
The short-term goal of the "trans" agenda is normalization of pedophilia, and that has been true since John Money. Saying that children have it means it cannot just be a perversion (which it is), so it's a tool to legitimize their fetishes.
There is no such thing as "gender dysphoria." The whole thing is garbage.
GD exists but it's simply anxiety (sometimes severe) centred around one's sex or sexed body, not the magical woo woo the TRA's and Gender pushing medical profession pushes.
I always say "gender dysphoria" does not exist because a symptom is not a condition.
There is autogynephilia in heterosexual males (Bruce Jenner). There is homosexual male narcissism (Dylan Mulvaney). There is anxiety/depression from childhood sexual abuse (mostly female, some males--Mackenzie McClelland and Walt Heyer). There is some cases of OCD, bipolar, schizophrenia (Ritchie Herron). This is simply a symptom.
But "gender dysphoria" does not exist and nobody can define it anyway.
And they're trying to change it to "gender incongruence" now so they can just say it "doesn't fit," and it doesn't even need to cause "unease."
These words and the term means nothing. I never use it, and it makes everything easier.
Even using their terms legitimizes this lie. Take away the words, the whole thing collapses. That's how easy it is.
This is really important, imo. "gender dysphoria" is always a symptom of something else. The upshot is that treating the symptom and ignoring the underlying issues, is just prolonging suffering
This is the most important thing because nobody is born in the wrong body. We are our bodies.
Giving men estrogen, mutilating children, giving women testosterone--none of this will make someone the opposite sex, even if they pass. It is a cover for the real issue, which is underneath, from childhood abuse to porn addiction.
These people never get real help.
And it causes all the problems because it leads to everything that cannot be avoided--males in women's jails, sports, etc. It just cannot be avoided.
So, there is no such thing as "gender dysphoria," like you said, and they're going to try to change the term anyway. It's meaningless.
Your real help is to deny the care proven effective and put everyone in conversion therapy. That doesn't work on gay people and it will not work on those you are talking about. Until you show me your data that your treatment is effective then it is not.
Was homosexuality a mental illness until the DSM decided it wasn't? The DSM is politicised af, friendo. Treating it like the immutable word of the gods isn't a good idea.
I look at reality, not what some American shrinks tell me I'm allowed to think
I think what people with “gender dysphoria” are experiencing is actually body dysmorphia, and trans provides a convenient way for them to creat a “new self” or their “authentic self” as they call it.
Most of the young women and girls you see falling victim to the trans cult have just that, Body Dysmorphia (BD). Gender Identity Disorder (GID) is something else but people with GID very often develop BD as a co-morbid condition. Always that way around GID first BD later.
Suffering from a real mental illness in one thing.
A ridiculous perversion and fetish is another.
Nobody should feel sympathy for autogyenphilic males who think their need to display their cross-dressing perversions in public make them the greatest victims/civil rights heroes of all time. It doesn't.
You have no idea what it is. It's not a fetish. You are mixing GD up with people who suffer from transvestite fetish. They are two entirely different types of mental health issues.
Au contraire. You do do you not advocate for so called "Gender Affirming Care" for children including the use of GnRH analogues (puberty blockers)?
All the historic research shows that if counselled and left alone the majority of children with gender associated distress will resolve their issues with puberty. Whereas affirming them and placing them on a medical pathway early locks them into that mindset and potentially destroys their lives.
Not only do you wish it on others you actively support it!
I have raised two adult children and when I say that I was likely born with that I mean that it was with me from my earliest memories. I didn't suggest toddlers have GD. But fyi every child gets gender socialized their own parents and their sense of gender happens from ages 5 to 7. That's not me making it up that's what the major child psychologist believed.
They tried for a while to make the argument that men have "ladybrains" but they aren't doing that too much anymore because after trying to say gender is just "social" for years, it doesn't make sense to try to prove it biologically now.
And if it's biological, they have to have a test for it. Are they requiring brain scans to prove a female brain in a male body? What's female and what's male? Define it.
The whole thing falls apart easily. They're going to back off this for now as the lawsuits filed by children start. Did any of those children get brain scans? What are they scanning for?
I have said this for years. If there were any validity to the brain difference stuff they would simply scan the brain if anyone presenting for gender transition. There would be no argument or issue around transing kids. A simple $500 MRI scan and it would be "See girl brain boy body" end of argument.
The historical studies have all been deeply flawed and easily discernible as such
For literally any study to work, they have to define "female" and "male." They can't even do that.
Then there has to be a test for every person, including children, that is reliable. Imagine that. It would never happen. And even if the scan showed irregularities, that doesn't need to be "affirmed." Schizophrenics show irregularities. Nobody goes along with their claims.
In the 2022 brain scan study I cite in the article, its report stated an individual can have a "biological sex" as male and a "perceived gender" as female. How can "gender" be female if it's different from biology?
That boils down to a male "feeling like" he's female--now imagine these big-brained scientists explaining that, and then explaining how "social roles" of gender need to be affirmed with biological manipulation like hormones and surgery.
NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S A LOAD OF CRAP.
That man isn't going to seriously answer any of your wonderful questions... he's just going to swill rethoric around in his mouth and occasionally spit some big, meaningless words out and expect applause from the minions.
I will answer any questions. You will likely not like the answers. Research is not rhetoric. I specifically commented on Dr Ps demented views. They are unfit to practice. Btw it's a male running that account.
Dr P won't have a PhD; she'll have a DClin (Doctorate in Clinical Psychology), which is a mostly clinical qualification with an element of research, rather than a research-based PhD.
Here in California, there's a Psy.D. Yeah clinical, with an element of research. The Board of Psychology recently investigated one I saw in 2009, and then again in 2019, and she's not practicing anymore. I filed a complaint against her for some shenanigans she pulled with insurance billing, and reported to the investigator that she failed to report the grooming and sexual abuse I received while in the hands of mandated reporters when I was a teen, which I had shown her documents of in 2009. I think that when a complaint is filed, it gives the investigators the latitude to investigate the practitioner in depth. I suggest women file more complaints against abusive practitioners who claim that they're "helping" people. There's too many narcissists and other psychologically defective people practicing, and they've caused a lot of harm they haven't been required to acknowledge, let alone pay reparations for. 😕
He works for WPATH. That alone disqualifies him (probably why he's "retired" after only ten purported years of practice). I've been following Dr. P for some time and her work is exemplary. But rather than address her command of the discipline, he resorts to defamation and gobbledygook. "Psychoneurobiological" condition? Pick a lane, dude. But if you rely on ever moving goalposts, you have to cover your bases, I guess. But I'm still waiting for evidence.
Theres multiple causes being investigatied for the root causes of GD. And I'm sorry if you can't read the research and see for yourself that treatment for GD is legal, safe and effective. I guess you see what you want to and if after reading that document dr p made up and you think that's exemplary work then you've got a serious cognitive dissonance issue
Happy New Year Karen!!
This man is a dumbass. Ppl who claim they have had gEnDeR dYsPhOriA since childhood likely just had parents who were into extremely strict, toxic gender roles
And what in the fuck is he talking about, plenty of ppl who have diseases know less about their disease than say, a doctor who specializes in that particular disease. Case in point: cancer. The average Jane who gets cancer knows less about it than an oncologist who has been working for 30 years and never had cancer before
This man is joke
Sorry to bother you but the average person who has a disease is looking to save their life at that point. So I'm pretty sure they'd start reading research to help them find a cure. But my point was is that a oncologist who has never had cancer doesn't know what it is like to have cancer. Flat out and will never know that experience. Secondly yeah people who have GD have GD regardless of the reasons for it..
Feelings don't matter when it comes to getting the best care. I don't care if the doctor necessarily knows EXACTLY how I feel, I'm more concerned that she is highly knowledgeable, professionally licensed, has X number of years of experience, and has basic empathy.
Empathy is what is needed in good healthcare professionals - they don't need to know exactly literally what it's like to have every disease 🙄
Gotta love how the TRA's and troons are desperate to have people *not* read anything that contradicts their agenda.
This writing by Dr P doesn't contradict anything. It's nonsense rantings.
May 2025 be the year of the terf. Happy new year! 🎉
Deakins quote 10 years experience as some kind of yardstick by which qualification is to be measured! If that is correct then Dr P XX quotes 30 years experience. Surely that trumps Deakins?
I read the Dr P article and it is a fair and accurate assessment of the social contagion phenomenon which has cause the current epidemic in what Deakins and the like describe a GD. The trouble is that they both start from the same false premise, that the DSM is a accurate descriptor of the symptoms of GD. It is not.
Dr P is absolutely correct the DSM V listing of GD is nonsense as was DSM IV and DSM III all the way back to 1980. Dr P is correct a bunch of psychologists and psychiatrists simply listed a bunch of characteristics that a disparate group of people shared to some degree or another and held them to be symptoms of the same condition. Utter shite!
Gender Identity does not exist, if it does I certainly do not have one of which I am aware.
Good for you. You dont have a GD. Then why do you care if someone else does? It's none of your business. Dr P can speculate all they want to. It doesn't matter. It doesn't change things. And what you describe as a bunch of characteristics that people share is exactly how a DSM committee works along with looking at the pertinent research.
The DSM V is a bunch of cobbled together nonsense. You could apply all the so called indicators listed therein to just about half the gay and lesbian people I have ever know at one time or another in there lives.
And I did not say "I don't have GD" . I very much do experience GD I said I don't have have a "Gender Identity". The whole concept is a canard!
So what you have just said is that gay people have mental health issues. Congrats they do. It's due to minority stress
I said nothing of the kind! I said they exhibit the behaviours listed in the DSM V. I thought according to your "Community" that is not a metal disorder!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!🎉🎉🎉 we can always hope, right?
“Likely since birth” LOL. Spoken by someone who’s never interacted with a baby. Newborns can barely see, let alone distinguish between male and female. The fact that they suggest TODDLERS and BABIES can have gender dysphoria is actually insane.
The short-term goal of the "trans" agenda is normalization of pedophilia, and that has been true since John Money. Saying that children have it means it cannot just be a perversion (which it is), so it's a tool to legitimize their fetishes.
There is no such thing as "gender dysphoria." The whole thing is garbage.
I agree.
GD exists but it's simply anxiety (sometimes severe) centred around one's sex or sexed body, not the magical woo woo the TRA's and Gender pushing medical profession pushes.
I always say "gender dysphoria" does not exist because a symptom is not a condition.
There is autogynephilia in heterosexual males (Bruce Jenner). There is homosexual male narcissism (Dylan Mulvaney). There is anxiety/depression from childhood sexual abuse (mostly female, some males--Mackenzie McClelland and Walt Heyer). There is some cases of OCD, bipolar, schizophrenia (Ritchie Herron). This is simply a symptom.
But "gender dysphoria" does not exist and nobody can define it anyway.
And they're trying to change it to "gender incongruence" now so they can just say it "doesn't fit," and it doesn't even need to cause "unease."
These words and the term means nothing. I never use it, and it makes everything easier.
Even using their terms legitimizes this lie. Take away the words, the whole thing collapses. That's how easy it is.
This is really important, imo. "gender dysphoria" is always a symptom of something else. The upshot is that treating the symptom and ignoring the underlying issues, is just prolonging suffering
Perfectly put.
This is the most important thing because nobody is born in the wrong body. We are our bodies.
Giving men estrogen, mutilating children, giving women testosterone--none of this will make someone the opposite sex, even if they pass. It is a cover for the real issue, which is underneath, from childhood abuse to porn addiction.
These people never get real help.
And it causes all the problems because it leads to everything that cannot be avoided--males in women's jails, sports, etc. It just cannot be avoided.
So, there is no such thing as "gender dysphoria," like you said, and they're going to try to change the term anyway. It's meaningless.
Your real help is to deny the care proven effective and put everyone in conversion therapy. That doesn't work on gay people and it will not work on those you are talking about. Until you show me your data that your treatment is effective then it is not.
This is not keeping with the DSM 5 TR definition for gender dysphoria no matter how much you write it down or say it.
Was homosexuality a mental illness until the DSM decided it wasn't? The DSM is politicised af, friendo. Treating it like the immutable word of the gods isn't a good idea.
I look at reality, not what some American shrinks tell me I'm allowed to think
The DSM is a gigantic load of worthless bullshit written by political actors who want to make money.
It's a reflection of a political agenda and financial zeitgeist, not reality or science.
I know who wrote it, who's in charge of it, who makes money from this, and what they want.
Read this:
https://kathighsmith.substack.com/p/trans-is-a-fraudand-it-always-has
There is the other type which is a detachment disorder.
I think what people with “gender dysphoria” are experiencing is actually body dysmorphia, and trans provides a convenient way for them to creat a “new self” or their “authentic self” as they call it.
Most of the young women and girls you see falling victim to the trans cult have just that, Body Dysmorphia (BD). Gender Identity Disorder (GID) is something else but people with GID very often develop BD as a co-morbid condition. Always that way around GID first BD later.
Ive read all these comments and you are wrong. You have never suffered from it in a prolonged disabling manner. I wish that on no one.
Suffering from a real mental illness in one thing.
A ridiculous perversion and fetish is another.
Nobody should feel sympathy for autogyenphilic males who think their need to display their cross-dressing perversions in public make them the greatest victims/civil rights heroes of all time. It doesn't.
This is nonsense.
You have no idea what it is. It's not a fetish. You are mixing GD up with people who suffer from transvestite fetish. They are two entirely different types of mental health issues.
Bullshit.
There is no such thing as "gender dysphoria."
There is autogynephilia and porn addictions, and that covers the issue of men in dresses.
That's all this is--fetish and perversion.
It's not different, and nobody should care.
The answer is no to all of it. These men are not suffering from the most serious mental illness of all time. They're mostly pervs.
Sex is binary and immutable, and there's nothing anybody can do about it, so this nonsense needs to stop.
Au contraire. You do do you not advocate for so called "Gender Affirming Care" for children including the use of GnRH analogues (puberty blockers)?
All the historic research shows that if counselled and left alone the majority of children with gender associated distress will resolve their issues with puberty. Whereas affirming them and placing them on a medical pathway early locks them into that mindset and potentially destroys their lives.
Not only do you wish it on others you actively support it!
I have raised two adult children and when I say that I was likely born with that I mean that it was with me from my earliest memories. I didn't suggest toddlers have GD. But fyi every child gets gender socialized their own parents and their sense of gender happens from ages 5 to 7. That's not me making it up that's what the major child psychologist believed.
They tried for a while to make the argument that men have "ladybrains" but they aren't doing that too much anymore because after trying to say gender is just "social" for years, it doesn't make sense to try to prove it biologically now.
And if it's biological, they have to have a test for it. Are they requiring brain scans to prove a female brain in a male body? What's female and what's male? Define it.
The whole thing falls apart easily. They're going to back off this for now as the lawsuits filed by children start. Did any of those children get brain scans? What are they scanning for?
It's easy to disprove. Read here:
https://kathighsmith.substack.com/p/ten-responses-to-the-exquisitely
I have said this for years. If there were any validity to the brain difference stuff they would simply scan the brain if anyone presenting for gender transition. There would be no argument or issue around transing kids. A simple $500 MRI scan and it would be "See girl brain boy body" end of argument.
The historical studies have all been deeply flawed and easily discernible as such
Yes.
For literally any study to work, they have to define "female" and "male." They can't even do that.
Then there has to be a test for every person, including children, that is reliable. Imagine that. It would never happen. And even if the scan showed irregularities, that doesn't need to be "affirmed." Schizophrenics show irregularities. Nobody goes along with their claims.
In the 2022 brain scan study I cite in the article, its report stated an individual can have a "biological sex" as male and a "perceived gender" as female. How can "gender" be female if it's different from biology?
That boils down to a male "feeling like" he's female--now imagine these big-brained scientists explaining that, and then explaining how "social roles" of gender need to be affirmed with biological manipulation like hormones and surgery.
NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S A LOAD OF CRAP.
Happy 2025 ✨
There are so many legal challenges where 2025 will be the year of outcomes and impact.
I am still hopeful that sense will overcome nonsense 🎉
That man isn't going to seriously answer any of your wonderful questions... he's just going to swill rethoric around in his mouth and occasionally spit some big, meaningless words out and expect applause from the minions.
I will answer any questions. You will likely not like the answers. Research is not rhetoric. I specifically commented on Dr Ps demented views. They are unfit to practice. Btw it's a male running that account.
Dude, nobody was talking to you.
🥇
Happy Happy New Year Karen
Happy New Year. 🥂
Definitely following dr P!
Happy new year Karen! When is your birthday?
Dr P won't have a PhD; she'll have a DClin (Doctorate in Clinical Psychology), which is a mostly clinical qualification with an element of research, rather than a research-based PhD.
She's bloody fabulous!
Here in California, there's a Psy.D. Yeah clinical, with an element of research. The Board of Psychology recently investigated one I saw in 2009, and then again in 2019, and she's not practicing anymore. I filed a complaint against her for some shenanigans she pulled with insurance billing, and reported to the investigator that she failed to report the grooming and sexual abuse I received while in the hands of mandated reporters when I was a teen, which I had shown her documents of in 2009. I think that when a complaint is filed, it gives the investigators the latitude to investigate the practitioner in depth. I suggest women file more complaints against abusive practitioners who claim that they're "helping" people. There's too many narcissists and other psychologically defective people practicing, and they've caused a lot of harm they haven't been required to acknowledge, let alone pay reparations for. 😕
Im truly sorry for the treatment you recieved at the hands of your abuser. That should have never happened.
She is a he. And he is an insane person who wants to rewrite what they can't. But hey good luck with her rhetoric.
Dr P is a woman
He works for WPATH. That alone disqualifies him (probably why he's "retired" after only ten purported years of practice). I've been following Dr. P for some time and her work is exemplary. But rather than address her command of the discipline, he resorts to defamation and gobbledygook. "Psychoneurobiological" condition? Pick a lane, dude. But if you rely on ever moving goalposts, you have to cover your bases, I guess. But I'm still waiting for evidence.
Dr P is a demented person.
Theres multiple causes being investigatied for the root causes of GD. And I'm sorry if you can't read the research and see for yourself that treatment for GD is legal, safe and effective. I guess you see what you want to and if after reading that document dr p made up and you think that's exemplary work then you've got a serious cognitive dissonance issue